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From: [e-mail] (Douglas A Taylor)
Subject: PC/GEOS FAQ List part 1/3 -- General questions
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Summary: PC/GEOS is a GUI (Graphical User Interface) developed by
         GeoWorks.  It runs on top of MS (or DR) DOS and provides
         a multitasking, multithreaded environment for any DOS
         machine with at least 512k of RAM and a hard disk.
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Archive-name: pcgeos-faq/part1
Last-modified: modified August 7, 1992

The most recent version of this FAQ list is available for anonymous
ftp at mir.eco.utexas.edu .  The file is geos_faq.zip in the /pub/geos
directory.  Items marked with a pound sign (#) have been changed or
added since the last version.

DISCLAIMER:  The information in this article does not necessarily
represent the official position of Geoworks in any way.  In fact, I
have no relation to Geoworks other than that of satisfied customer.

I can't take credit for what's in this list of Q's & A's.  I compiled
it from what I read in this newsgroup, in the manual and in computer
magazines.  If you ask a good question or provide a good answer, you
might well see it included in this list.

Please send comments, suggestions, or corrections to
[e-mail]
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Q:  What is PC/GEOS?

A:  PC/GEOS is a GUI (Graphical User Interface) developed by Geoworks
    (formerly Berkeley Softworks).  It runs on top of the MS-DOS
    operating system.  It provides a fully pre-emptive multitasking,
    multithreaded environment for any DOS machine (8088 through 80486)
    with 512k of memory and a hard drive.  It also provides virtual
    memory for its applications (ie, your disk space can be treated
    like a lot of slow RAM), and, from what I'm told, applications
    written for PC/GEOS are not bound by the MS-DOS 640k barrier.

    Geoworks Ensemble, or GWE, is a suite of programs which run under
    the PC/GEOS GUI.  The latest version is 1.2.  There is also
    Geoworks Pro, which includes some enhancements over GWE 1.2 and
    includes the DOS spreadsheet Quattro Pro SE from Borland.  GWE
    Lite is a subset of the GWE suite of apps which comes bundled with
    many computer systems.

Q: Is PC/GEOS a real OS?

A:  It certainly is a real OS.  DOS is only used for the file system
    support.  BTW, many people consider MS Windows to be a real OS
    too. It mostly depends on who's trying to sell you what.  :-)
    PC/GEOS is one of the first (if not the first to ship) object
    oriented OS's.  PC/GEOS is a fully pre-emptive multi-threaded,
    multi-tasking OS designed to run on everything from an original
    IBM PC XT to the latest barn-burning i486 boxes.

Q:  Is PC/GEOS an alternative to Windows?

A:  That depends on what you mean by "alternative".  It won't run
    Windows applications, but it will provide you with a lot of
    functionality that Windows won't, especially if you have a small
    machine (< 80386 cpu, < 2 meg RAM).

Q:  So where do I get a copy of PC/GEOS?  Is it shareware?

A:  No, it's not shareware.  You can get it from pretty much any
    MS-DOS software retailer.  Pick up a copy of PC Magazine or Byte
    and flip through the ads.  Prices range from ~$115.00 (at
    FastMicro) on up.

Q:  Where can I get a demo version of PC/GEOS?

A:  The same place you can get GWE -- through a software dealer.  It
    costs $9.95, which goes towards the price of the full package
    should you decide to buy it.  The GWE demo will let you do
    everything except save to disk.

Q:  Do applications have to be specially written to work under
    PC/GEOS?

A:  Yes.  Geoworks is working on a SDK (Software Development Kit).  If
    you're interested in developing for the GEOS environment, read the
    following letter.  It's going out to all of the developers that
    have contacted GeoWorks regarding the SDK:

    >>>>> START OF LETTER

    Dear Sofware Developer,

    We are currently offering the first draft of the PC/GEOS Software
    Development Kit Technical Documentation.  This documentation is
    for anyone interested in PC/GEOS technical information or product
    development.  The documentation covers PC/GEOS concepts, object
    oriented programming, system services and libraries, and
    development tools.  Sample C source code is also included.

    The price of the four volume documentation set is $200.  This
    price covers the initial draft version plus subsequent updates
    that will be send to you at no additional charge.  The
    documentation alone will not enable you to begin programming for
    PC/GEOS.  However, obtaining documentation now will allow you to
    evaluate PC/GEOS as a platform for future product development and
    to get a head start on PC/GEOS development.

    Development tools for PC/GEOS are scheduled for BETA testing this
    summer and will be available to participants for an additional
    fee.  BETA testers will also receive access to GeoWorks Developer
    Support for assistance during development.  Please note that
    purchase of the documentation does *not* guarantee that you will
    be chosen as a BETA tester of the SDK.  We have received many more
    requests to participate in BETA testing than we can accommodate,
    but we will give each candidate careful consideration.

    [...]
    >>>>  END OF LETTER [Thanks to John D. Mitchell at Geoworks for
    the text]

    To order a copy of the SDK documentation, please send *US Postal
    mail* inquiries to GeoWorks with an attention to Developer
    Support.

    The SDK will require a beefy i386 class machine for development.
    If you plan to use the Swat debugger, you will need a second
    machine that can be anything that will run PC/GEOS (i.e. XT 8088
    or better, etc.).

Q:  When is PC/GEOS 2.0 going to be launched?

A:  It should be released late in 1992 or early 1993.  I haven't heard
    of any firm release dates.

Q:  What new features will it include?

A:  According to a recent post, the German Geos User Club organized a
    user meeting on March 14th with the german distributor of
    Geoworks, the firm Heureka from Munich.  Gary Hammer (of
    GeoWorks?) was there and made some announcements about GWE 2.0.
    Some new features/applications of Version 2.0 include:

    - Geoworks database and spreadsheet applications. The name of
    the database is not official, but the working name is GeoBase.
    It will be able to import GeoDex documents and possibly other
    formats as well.

    - more Video drivers, including SVGA and support for 256 colors

    - color printing,

    - "intelligent" print drivers (whatever that means)

    - a professional new GeoWrite with new features (text around
    pictures, Export & Import functions).  An example:  you can import
    a WordPerfect document, edit it into GeoWrite and export (save) it
    back as a WordPerfect doc.

    - GeoAladdin (for GEnie users, I guess)

    I got this report third- or fourth-hand, so take that for what
    it's worth.  One widely-hoped-for feature that's conspicuously
    absent from this list is, of course, multitasking DOS sessions.

Q:  There was a rumor that GWE 2.0 will come out in April '92 with the
    capability to run both DOS and Windows apps.  Is this true?

A:  The April release date has generally been dismissed as utter
    nonsense, as has the capability to run Windows apps ("Who wants to
    use those slow, fat programs anyway?").  See the previous answer
    about DOS multi-tasking.

Q:  Does PC/GEOS support MS-DOS 5.0 or DR-DOS 6.0 task-switching?

    Version 1.2 of GWE supports MS-DOS 5.0 task-switching if your
    hot-key is the default (Ctrl-Esc).

    The DR Dos TaskMax (task switcher) ships with the update version
    6.01 of DR Dos.  The task switching is only supported in Pro (not
    in v1.2). The current support allows you to cut/paste between
    PC/GEOS applications and DOS applications.

Q:  Are there any third-party apps for PC/GEOS?

A:  GWE versions 1.0 through Pro have shipped with America On-Line by
    America On-Line (fomerly Quantum).  There are a couple of products
    that are in late beta.

    Also, Certified Software has evidently released some software for
    the GEOS environment.  Certified Software's phone number is
    1-800-582-4455.  The programs include Colorizer for GEOS, $14.95;
    Clocks for GEOS, $14.95; and GEOS Kids & Vegas Games, $29.95.

Q:  What fonts are available for PC/GEOS?

A:  GeoWorks Ensemble v1.0->Pro ship with 8 (9?) base outline fonts.
    There are currently three (3) font packs available directly from
    GeoWorks that provide a pile of typefaces.  Both Micrologic and
    Atech have font conversion programs that support the GeoWorks
    Nimbus font format.

    Shipping with v1.2 (and later) is a PC/GEOS application called the
    Nimbus Font Converter (in the Extras folder under the World
    directory) that will convert from the URW Nimbus font format into
    the PC/GEOS Nimbus font format.

#Q:  Are there any anonymous ftp sites for PC/GEOS stuff?
#
#    There are currently two anonymous ftp sites with PC/GEOS-specific
#    files.  First, there is mir.eco.utexas.edu [128.83.172.17].  The
#    files are in the /pub/geos directory.  Access time is 6:00 pm to
#    8:00 am CST.  If you want to upload, PKZIP your file and put it in
#    the /inbasket directory.  Then send a note to Tony Yen
#    ([e-mail]).  Use the filename as the subject of
#    the message, and leave a single-line description in the body of
#    the message.  Tony's doing this out of the goodness of his heart,
#    and will take the site down if traffic becomes excessive or any
#    funny stuff happens.
#
#    Second, the army's Simtel-20 archive now has a GEOWORKS directory
#    in its msdos section.  The best way to access the Simtel archive
#    is through one of its mirror sites, like oak.oakland.edu or
#    wuarchive.wustl.edu.  If you have a program to upload to Simtel,
#    please send e-mail to Keith Petersen ([e-mail])
#    with a short description of the files you wish to submit.  He will
#    provide you with instruction on how to upload.  Please do *not*
#    send files to that mailbox.
#
Q:  As I understood it, PC/GEOS was originally the PM/LITE (or OS/2
    lite).  IBM dropped it and so it was released as Ensemble.

A:  This is not correct.  PC/GEOS was developed by Berkeley Softworks
    (now Geoworks), not by IBM.  I heard that Geoworks was at one time
    working towards an agreement bundling GWE with IBM's PS/1's, but
    that agreement fell through.  I have also heard that IBM talked to
    Geoworks about taking over PM/Lite, but nothing ever came of that
    either.

Q:  Which character set does PC/GEOS use? Most European languages need
    the special characters above CHR(127)...

    PC/GEOS has quite a large available character set.  For instance,
    all the vowels can be given acute, dieresis, grave, and circumflex
    accents in both upper- and lower-case.  You can also use the
    Spanish ~n (as in se~nor), Danish (?) O-with-a-slash-through-it,
    the German ess-tset (double s), and many other special language
    characters.

    You also have a choice of various typographical, punctuation,
    currency, and mathematical symbols.  These are all well-documented
    in the manual.

Q:  I don't like the UI (user interface).  Can I customize it?

A:  PC/GEOS has pioneered the concept of the Generic UI.  What this
    means is that the application is written to a very powerful
    dynamically bound object oriented UI.  At runtime the system
    'binds' the Generic UI to a Specific UI.  The only currently
    shipping UI is a Motif based Specific UI.  Others, I'm sure will
    come when time permits.

Q:  Does PC/GEOS exist in any other language versions than English?

A:  Certainly.  PC/GEOS is currently available in seven languages:
    Dutch, English, Finnish, French, German, Italian, and Spanish.

Q:  Is PC/GEOS available as a pen system?

A:  Pen/GEOS was announced by Geoworks CEO Brian Dougherty at the
    recent Pen Computing conference.  Due to PC/GEOS's object-oriented
    design, once the basic pen support was added to the appropriate
    system level objects, all of the applications autmatically have
    basic Pen support.  Pen-specific applications are sure to follow.

Q:  Is there a way to print using my printer's built-in fonts?

A:  As far as I know, there's no way to embed printer codes in a GWE
    document.  One thing you might try is to set your printer to use
    the font you want before you enter GWE.  Then print using the
    text-only mode.  I haven't tried this, so I don't know whether is
    works.  If you try it, let me know.

Q:  Can anyone tell me what the difference is between Ensemble and
    Pro?

A:  Geoworks Pro comes bundled with Quattro Pro SE, a DOS-based
    spreadsheet from Borland that you can buy separately.

    There's a spreadsheet viewer in Pro which works with Quattro and
    Lotus files.  The viewer runs within the PC/GEOS environment, and
    allows you to do font changes, printing, and cutting to paste into
    other GeoWorks apps.  You can't edit the spreadsheet contents
    unless you select an "Edit Spreadsheet" menu item.  That menu
    selection launches Quattro Pro by dropping into DOS first.

    Geoworks Pro also has a few improvements over GWE 1.2, such as the
    ability to use the DR DOS 6.0 task switcher.  The Pro distribution
    contains a bunch of DOS program launchers that were bundled with
    various OEM configurations of Ensemble.  Launchers are loaded onto
    your system if you identify it as one of the OEM systems. This is
    more of a packaging difference than a product difference; GeoWorks
    simply chose to distribute the OEM versions and the generic
    version in a single orderable item.

Q:  I can't get my backspace character to work with GeoComm when I
    dial into Unix.  What's wrong?

A:  As I understand it, there is no way to send the DELETE (ASCII
    127) character with GeoComm.  If your system is expecting to see
    the DELETE character, you may have to set it to use the backspace
    character (Control-H, ASCII 8) instead.  Two examples follow:

    If your problem is at the command line, you may need to set the
    backspace key to erase.  Try the following command to see if it
    helps:

        stty erase "^H"

    If your problem is with GNU emacs, you need to set the backspace
    key to delete characters to the left.  Try this command to see if
    it helps:

        Meta-X global-set-key "\C-h" 'backward-delete-char-untabify

    If you absolutely must send a DELETE character, try this:
    First, create a file called DELETE.TXT containing just the DELETE
    (Ascii 127) character.  You'll have to use a DOS-based text editor
    to do it.  Then when you want to send the DELETE character, just
    select "Type From Text File" from the FILE menu.  In the dialog
    box, you choose DELETE.TXT.  That's all; you've just sent a DELETE
    character.

Q:  How can I convert files from my DOS word processor's format to
    GeoWrite and back again?

A:  There are no file conversion facilities yet, although I hear it's
    a high priority item (as is everything else these days :-)  Those
    people at Geoworks must be sorely overworked.).  The best you can
    do is to save from your DOS word processor in ASCII, plain-text,
    or generic WP format.  GeoWrite allows you to import and export
    plain ASCII file.

Q:  I'm running GWE 1.2 with Stacker installed.  Drive C is my stacker
    volume (through SSWAP).  For some reason GeoManager insists on
    looking at drive E for the /geoworks/world directory, even though
    when I exit geoworks, I'm on drive C.  Any ideas?

A:  Check the volume labels for drives C, D, and E.  If they're
    identical, then use GeoManager to edit the volume labels so that
    each drive has its own distinct label.

Q:  I was using GeoComm in vt100 mode to edit some files on Unix.  All
    of a sudden GeoComm blew up when I deleted a line.  What's wrong?

A:  GeoComm seems to have trouble with the vt100 code for changing the
    the scrolling region of the terminal.  The code is of the form
    ^[[#;#r, where the first # is the top line of the scrolling region
    and the second # is the bottom line.  Below is a revised termcap
    (from Ted Dunning) that should circumvent the problem.  To use
    this termcap, copy the section between the "cut here" lines and
    copy it to a file in the home directory of your Unix account, say
    geovt100.  Then insert one of the following lines in your startup
    file:

    For bash:         export TERMCAP="$(cat $HOME/geovt100)"
    For csh:          setenv TERMCAP `cat $HOME/geovt100`
    For sh:           TERMCAP=`cat $HOME/geovt100`;export TERMCAP

--- cut here ---
d1|vt100-not:\
    :do=^J:co#80:li#24:cl=50\E[;H\E[2J:sf=5\ED:\
    :le=^H:bs:am:cm=5\E[%i%d;%dH:nd=2\E[C:up=2\E[A:\
    :ce=3\E[K:cd=50\E[J:so=2\E[7m:se=2\E[m:us=2\E[4m:ue=2\E[m:\
    :md=2\E[1m:mr=2\E[7m:mb=2\E[5m:me=2\E[m:is=\E[1;24r\E[24;1H:\
    :rf=/usr/share/lib/tabset/vt100:\
    :rs=\E>\E[?3l\E[?4l\E[?5l\E[?7h\E[?8h:ks=\E[?1h\E=:ke=\E[?1l\E>:\
    :ku=\EOA:kd=\EOB:kr=\EOC:kl=\EOD:kb=^H:\
    :ho=\E[H:k1=\EOP:k2=\EOQ:k3=\EOR:k4=\EOS:pt:sr=5\EM:vt#3:xn:\
    :sc=\E7:rc=\E8:
--- cut here ---

Q:  When I install other fonts, they are displayed in the fonts menu
    in the order they were installed.  Is there a way to have them
    in alphabetical order?

A:  Currently, the font menu is built in the order that the font files
    are found in the directory.  So, if you want them in alphabetical
    order, use a DOS directory sort program (e.g. Symantec's/Norton's
    DS).

Q:  I'm having trouble importing graphics file into PC/GEOS.
    Sometimes when I use the Import option in GeoDraw it refuses to
    import the file.  Other times it will import it but the colors are
    all screwed up.  What's going on?

A:  The problem is twofold.  First, PC/GEOS is currently limited to a
    maximum of 16 colors.  If you try to import a file with more than
    16 colors, GeoDraw gives you a message about an incompatible
    bitmap.  Second, GeoDraw forces any picture you import to use the
    PC/GEOS color palette instead of the palette embedded in the
    picture itself.  This is what screws up the colors.

    You need to get a copy of the files piclb183.zip and ensembul.zip
    from the /pub/geos directory of ecst.csuchico.edu.  Piclb183.zip
    contains a program called Piclab which is useful for manipulating
    GIF files.  Among other things, Piclab lets you alter the default
    color map of a GIF file, and lets you set the number of colors as
    well.  Ensembul.zip is a file containing information on how to use
    Piclab to convert your picture for use with GEOS.
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