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- From: brad@optilink.UUCP (Brad Yearwood)
- Newsgroups: misc.consumers,rec.food.drink,ba.food
- Subject: Re: Looking for a *great* coffeemaker
- Message-ID: <11922@optilink.UUCP>
- Date: 27 Aug 92 05:32:51 GMT
- References: <etc.> <_2-n7f.strnlght@netcom.com> <1992Aug25.164622.338@BofA.com>
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- Organization: Optilink Corporation, Petaluma, CA
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- In article <1992Aug25.164622.338@BofA.com>, dan@BofA.com (Dan Brockman) writes:
- #
- # perhaps you gurus de cafe can tell me a good story about
- # Java Eastern Estate coffee. I have always liked this
- # stuff, but I do not know what makes it different from
- # the others, even different from nearby varieties like
- # Sumatra or Celebes. What's the lore on this?
-
- I'd expect that variation in flavor comes from difference in local soil,
- altitude, and climate. Volcanoes look like a good mechanism for causing
- wide variations in all three.
-
- Don't know specifically about Java Eastern Estate (I've never seen any
- labelled that way), but I would like to say that the best coffee I can
- recall was Java Estate Kuyamas from around 1979-80. It was well rounded,
- and had a subtle and wonderful spicy component which I haven't found in
- other coffees. This component disappeared for a year or two, then came
- back for another year or maybe two before disappearing again.
-
- The stuff labelled Java Estate (no Kuyamas) that I've been seeing for
- the last few years is not close.
-
- If anyone sees any Java specifically labelled Estate Kuyamas, I'd appreciate
- hearing.
-
- I don't know if they're still around, but the coffee seller whose selection
- and attitude I was most impressed with was Polly's in Long Beach. They
- had the integrity to tell you that their Jamaica Blue Mountain (it came
- from some supplier in fancy labelled cans pre-roasted) was overpriced and
- not really worth it - they carried it because people insisted. They'd
- have as many as 3 different Sumatras (Mandheling, Blue Lintong, and Blue
- Boengie), and would sell either green or roasted (green at a small discount).
-
- To Curtis Jackson: glad to hear that you don't like Arabian Mocha (presumably
- this means Yemeni Mocha) - that leaves more for me! This seems to have come
- back after disappearing for several years - I believe [then South] Yemen was
- under embargo for harboring terrorists or something.
-
- There does seem to be a disturbing correlation between good coffee and
- bad politics.
-
- Peets: gak, phooee. I haven't seen anything there that hasn't been roasted
- to a greasy crisp.
-
- Brad Yearwood brad@optilink.com {uunet, pyramid}!optilink!brad
- Petaluma, CA
-