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- From: bkwg0457@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Brent Whitlock)
- Subject: Re: ADVICE NEEDED: Former Apartment deduct
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- Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 16:40:34 GMT
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- reb@Ingres.COM (Phydeaux) writes:
-
- >In article <1992Aug24.131520.18936@nynexst.com> schwartz@nynexst.com writes:
- >>Has anyone considered videotaping the cleaned, moved-out-of apartment?
- >>(Don't forget to set the date feature on the camcorder.)
- >>How secure is such evidence in court?
-
- >Setting the date proves nothing, you can set it to whatever date you
- >want. But -- buying a newspaper and videotaping the headline and date
- >along with the rest of the apartment will probably work.
- > reb
-
- Unfortunately, even this can be tampered with, so it doesn't prove that
- a tape was made on a certain day. It can prove that a tape wasn't made
- before a certain day, however. So in the case that you are making a
- videotape the day you are moving out, and you turn in your keys that day,
- using the current day's paper could be helpful. But if you want to
- make a videotape of the damage in your apartment when you move in to
- refute any security deposit withholdings at the end of the lease, it won't
- hold water. After all, you could have taken an old newspaper and videotaped
- the *damaged* apartment just before you moved out.
-
- Would it be possible to notarize a videotape? Perhaps you could make the
- tape, make a copy, seal one in an envelope, and mail it to yourself. As
- long as the seal is not broken, you could prove the tape within the sealed
- envelope was made no later than the day it was postmarked. That could be
- opened in court, say, and then compared with your other copy to verify
- that it was made no later than the postmark date. Could the videotape
- in the sealed envelope be notarized?
-
- Using both of these methods combined, at least you could prove that a
- videotape was not made before the date of the newspaper, and not later
- than the date of the postmark. That seems to be about the best you could
- do.
-
- The most binding proof would be to have the landlord with you when you
- make the tape, and tape the landlord saying what the current date and
- time is. This may not be possible, depending on the landlord and the
- landlords' tolerance (and honesty.)
-
-
- --
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- Brent Whitlock Beckman Institute for Advanced Science & Technology
- bwhitlock@uiuc.edu Dept. of Electrical & Computer Engineering
- University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
-