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- From: terry@thisbe.Eng.Sandy.Novell.COM (Terry Lambert)
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- Subject: Re: AT&T Long Distance Boycott (was: BNR2SS, Mach, and The Lawsuit)
- Message-ID: <1992Sep4.002737.21618@gateway.novell.com>
- Date: 4 Sep 92 00:27:37 GMT
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- In article <Bu0ouz.2Ct@rice.edu> cathyf@is.rice.edu (Catherine Anne Foulston) writes:
- > what? non-academic people want one
- > big group we're all forced to read?
- > I don't get it.
-
- Some individuals felt that a crossposting to all news groups to
- deliver a politically motivated message was acceptable, since they felt it
- was news everyone *should* be interested in. A "big group we're all forced
- to read" would be about the same effect.
-
- >>The newsgroups included (even in this posting) are quite germane to the
- >>topic of the AT&T suit.
- > NOT
- >at least not news.groups, anyway. Although the other stuff in this
- >thread about where the thread belongs may be appropriate to news.groups.
-
- That, and the posible impact on usenet as an entity as a result of what is
- generally thought of as an "undesirable" outcome to the suit.
-
- >>[usenet not appropriate for boycott]
- >>This is doubly true of the Internet, which is the primary mechanism used
- >
- >Let's say "a major mechanism, in the USA." Usenet would survive without
- >the NSF part of the Internet, it would just be slower in places.
-
- It would require significant rearchitecting in places to get the connections
- back up.
-
- >>in the distribution of usenet, since the funding body is the NSF, a federally
- >>funded agency, and organisation of a boycott in this manner violates several
- >>federal statues regarding restraing of trade.
- >
- >Now that's actually sort of interesting, since the long-distance digital
- >lines the Internet runs over are provided by MCI. So it could appear
- >that MCI was helping the NSF, or NSF was helping MCI, to promulgate a
- >boycott of AT&T. Alert the conspiracy theorists! (But please be nice
- >to us non-conspiracy-theorists and take it to alt.conspiracy.) I
- >don't actually think this is a real issue because the opposition to
- >the boycott have just as much opportunity to post to the net.
-
- But they have less opportunity to "unboycott", as it were.
-
- Let me take this opportunity to correct my statement that "NSF funds
- the Internet", which is not precisely true. Let me also demonstrate the
- twistly little path I took which led me to the conclusion that it would be
- possible to kill usenet as a result of enraging AT&T lawyers, who demostrably
- sue as a result of little provocation:
-
- o NSF funds NSFNet
- o DARPA funds ARPANet
- o In the U.S., these two networks constitute the bulk of the backbone
- sites and transport mechanism for usenet.
- o Involvement in the institution of a boycott of a private corporation
- by NSF or DARPA by providing necessary communications services to
- establish said boycott could be construed as a conflict of interest
- on the part of these agencies. This would be a violation of federal
- regulations which could result in restriction of usenet traffic on
- NSF and DARPA operated portions of the Internet, or removal of these
- hosts from the Internet.
- o The last two items probably bear resemblence to reality only if the
- government doesn't overreact (as if this were possible ;-).
- o Removal of these hosts from the Internet would significantly cripple
- the Internet in the U.S., the primary source of netnews traffic,
- and, by extension, usenet. After a rather extended period, the
- Internet would be likely to recover connectivity (thus re-connecting
- usenet).
- o Continued operation of the hosts with restriction of only usenet
- services would be unlikely to cause the formation of alternate routes,
- as the only traffic restricted would be usenet. This would be likely
- to kill usenet.
-
- Since everone is probably as tired of this thread as I am, followups are to
- alt.flame. Hopefully, this will incite postings to this article rather than
- others, and the thread will simply disappear so we can get back to doing
- useful work.
-
-
- Terry Lambert
- terry_lambert@gateway.novell.com
- terry@icarus.weber.edu
-
- ---
- Disclaimer: Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of
- my present or previous employers.
-