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- Date: 1 Sep 92 11:13:38 GMT
- Message-ID: <jopa.715346018@tkk.tele.fi>
- Newsgroups: comp.windows.misc,comp.human-factors
- Subject: Re: GUIs Considered Harmful
- Distribution: comp
- References: <1992Aug20.181915.2357@twg.com> <1992Aug30.155725.3241@kilowatt.uucp>
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- From: jopa@tkk.tele.fi (Jorma Paananen)
- Lines: 27
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- > I've used X minimally (maybe I'll use it more when I get this
- > Diamond SpeedSTAR 24 to work with 1024*768), and have found it very usefull.
- > It's nice to have 3 xterms up and running (and being able to see them while
- > I'm in another window) that still give me the CLI interface I NEED to develop.
- > I can't use a GUI to do debugging or editting - I still use TECO which is a
- > CLI based editor (even though I've made it do a LOT more than DEC's TECO in
- > the area of on-screen editting). I have to use my HANDS - I have a much
- > clearer view IN MY HEAD of what I'm trying to accomplish than any GUI
- > programmer could provide me with. I've setup things under X that greatly
- > improve things, but this is all because of the fact that I can SEE three
- > or more things at once.
-
- Your tools are CLI type tools, so it is not suprising you like CLI interface.
- I think that the important word is not GUI, but direct manipulation,
- and how to make it easy (and fast). Try sometimes to use your X enviroment
- more than just to see more. I don't find icons, buttons and pretty pictures
- etc so important, but to use mouse AND keyboard to handle something
- on the screen (even if it is only text) is faster than only with
- keyboard, when you are good at using both and you know when to use
- mouse (and you use software that doesn't prevent it).
-
- I use a GUI enviroment as my frontend to our unix etc machines and
- at least I have found this mixed CLI - GUI enviroment good.
-
- Jorma jopa@th.tele.fi
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- It's not an optical illusion, it just looks like one.
-