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- From: paul@hal.COM (Paul Sander)
- Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
- Subject: Re: Reporting bugs in A/UX
- Summary: Support programs
- Message-ID: <183fioINNg7t@parlo.hal.COM>
- Date: 2 Sep 92 22:35:04 GMT
- References: <1992Sep1.151614.19135@jato.jpl.nasa.gov> <1992Sep2.054029.7176@panix.com>
- Organization: HaL Computer Systems, Inc.
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- In article <1992Sep2.054029.7176@panix.com> alexis@panix.com (Alexis Rosen)
- writes:
- >dundas@chip.Jpl.Nasa.Gov (John Dundas) writes:
- > [Complains that bugs reported via comp.unix.aux and
- > reports.aux@applelink.apple.com go unacknowledged]
- >
- >*Flame On*
- >
- >Forget it. You're wasting your time. If you're really lucky, one of the
- >engineers who knows that area will hear, in which case s/he'll probably
- >try to fix it, _if_ the time is available (according to group leaders or
- >whatever they're called), and may actually let you know and have a patch
- >before 3.1 or 4.0 comes out.
- >
- >Apple has already blown it in the Unix market so badly that there's no chance
- >they'll ever succeed, unless possibly the PowerRISC machine is an incredible
- >hit. One of the reasons for this is that they don't behave like a "big Unix
- >vendor" ought to. And bug reports are a prime example of this kind of problem.
- >
- >*Flame Off*
-
- I don't know about that. Apple's telephone technical support has improved
- about 1000% for me over the past few months. They return my telephone calls,
- and report progress of bugs that I report. They've solved some problems over
- the phone for me, and have escalated other problems to engineering. They're
- a bit slower than I'd like (I still have a couple of crucial bugs open with no
- resolution in sight), but it's much improved. Plus, you get 1 year's
- worth of phone support for free (up from 3 months when 2.0.1 was released)
- when you license A/UX 3.0 . They even have a toll-free telephone number you
- can call from anywhere in the USA.
-
- I believe that it is a sound business decision to support only those
- customers who have purchased support. Since everyone gets a year's worth
- bundled with their 3.0 license, there's no excuse not to use it. If you're
- reporting bugs to reports.aux@applelink.apple.com and including your access
- number, then Apple should treat them as if it were called in. (If Apple don't,
- then maybe they should reconsider this position.) On the other hand, noting
- bugs reported by unsupported users and giving them low priorities is typical
- for a Unix vendor; Sun, DEC, and IBM (each of whom claim to be big Unix
- vendors) all do this.
-
- In addition, even if you do need to actually _purchase_ support (as I did
- for 2.0.1), the pricing is half that of 3rd party Sun support companies,
- which charge less than Sun do for inferior service, and who in turn charge
- less than DEC and IBM. And, Apple sells a stripped-down support service
- that caps the number of calls you can make in a fixed time period, if your
- support needs aren't great and your budget is low.
-
- Sounds to me like Apple's support organization is far superior to their
- competitors'. No, Apple does not behave like a big Unix vendor, thankfully.
- They act like a small systems vendor, and as such are able to provide
- superior service to the little guy. And this is quite a feat, considering
- how many different ways small systems can be configured and various side
- effects that may interact.
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