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- From: barmar@think.com (Barry Margolin)
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- Subject: Re: Xterminal-Server ratio wanted
- Message-ID: <1836euINNaqs@early-bird.think.com>
- Date: 2 Sep 92 19:59:26 GMT
- References: <1992Sep1.200609.15078@progress.com>
- Organization: Thinking Machines Corporation, Cambridge MA, USA
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- In article <1992Sep1.200609.15078@progress.com> tucker@bedford.progress.COM writes:
- > We are currently performing an initial investigation into upgrading
- >our present dumb-terminal based user environment to a X windows based one.
- >We are weighing all the dis/advantages of PCs, Xterminals and workstations
- >and look favorably at Xterminals from a maintenance standpoint. I use one
- >myself and see no lack of functionality. We would like any opinions on this
- >decision itself. And if we do go with Xterminals, then the question of how
- >many Xterminals running off of how many Sparcs, Sparc2s, Solbournes, etc. We
- >would like to hear about any success/horror stories about implementing such
- >a configuration and performance issues regarding Xterm/Server ratios which
- >seem to work well. These users will mainly be running Progress applications
- >and some word-processing, news readers and email UAs.
-
- What are "Progress applications"?
-
- My impression is that except for heavily graphics-oriented applications, an
- X terminal isn't much worse than a dumb terminal. There's more overhead
- for keyboard input, but since that only happens at human typing rates, it's
- not really significant. Output has some extra overhead, but unless you're
- doing it continuously (e.g. for animation), it's generally not enough to
- cause problems. As far as the network is concerned, I'd guestimate about
- 20-50% overhead for using X terminals over using dumb terminals (assuming
- the dumb terminals were on the network via a terminal concentrator). I've
- never noticed any network congestion problems that I could attribute to X.
-
- As for server overhead, that also seems to be pretty low. We some SS2's
- and multiprocessor SPARCservers with connections to two dozen X servers (a
- mix of X terminals, Sun workstations, and Macs running MacX) as well as
- some dumb terminals and Macs running Telnet, and at least one 4-processor
- 690MP with connections to over 50 X terminals. The main reason that X
- terminals tend to put more load on a server is that users tend to run more
- simultaneous applications; they'll have an xclock and xbiff running all the
- time, and they'll have several windows open rather than exit one
- application in order to start another. You may need more swap space to
- hold all these active processes.
-
- If you're mainly going to be using text-based applications as you
- described, I think X terminals are definitely the way to go.
- --
- Barry Margolin
- System Manager, Thinking Machines Corp.
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