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- From: hunter@bacchus.esa.oz.au (James Gardiner [Hunter])
- Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
- Subject: Re: How to build a System-Disk ??
- Message-ID: <1992Aug27.035353.26664@bacchus.esa.oz.au>
- Date: 27 Aug 92 03:53:53 GMT
- References: <vC+vr*Qw0@video1.bs.open.de> <1992Aug19.030638.667@bacchus.esa.oz.au> <optf0ac@zuni.esd.sgi.com>
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- In <optf0ac@zuni.esd.sgi.com> olson@anchor.esd.sgi.com (Dave Olson) writes:
-
- >In <1992Aug19.030638.667@bacchus.esa.oz.au> hunter@bacchus.esa.oz.au (James Gardiner [Hunter]) writes:
- >| Another comment to SGI here.
- >| PLEASE put in the index
- >| HOW TO INITALISE A NEW HARD DISK chapter
- >| Make sure you put instructions on how to use the Disk initialise program.
-
- >Unlikely, since it is so rare a requirement, and such a pain to
- rare but it does happen.
- >really handle all of the possibilities. The theory is that if
- >you are savvy enough to buy your own disks (and cheat us out of
- >our profits ;) ) that you know how to do it or find it yourself...
- I see your point.
-
- >"apropos disk" yields a fairly short list, so there shouldn't
- >be very many false starts. Putting it into the installation
- But. how do I do an apropos when my Indigo is still in bits....???
-
- >guide isn't likely to be viewed with favor, as it is already
- >too long and complicated (as many of you have posted). It is
- >hard to be both simple and thorough.
- Well I understand how it could be long and complicated to write about
- but my main beef is that I had to search the manual cover to cover
- defore I stumbled over it. A small little entry in the index would
- have been great. A one liner to the area of the manual in question.
- Is that too much to ask.
-
- >| Also, another problem I had is that I made 4 partitions when I init the disk.
- >| /
- >| /usr
- >| /home
- >| /tmp
- >| plus a swap.
- >| on a 1gig WREN VII
- >|
- >| Then when I started to load the OS, the bloody inst program would ONLY
- >| see and load the OS on to a set partitions. THE WRONG PARTITIONS.
-
- >No, it *defaults* to a known set of partitions. If you want
- >others, you need to tell it so. In fact, with the setup you
- >listed above, the default should work just fine, as nothing
- >should be installed into /tmp or /home. Of course, if you
- >chose to use something other than partition 6 for /usr, you
- >have to work at it a bit, but it is pretty simple nonetheless.
-
- >| The only way around this was to make the partitons it wanted to
- >| use as / and /usr (mainly where it chose /usr) was to run the disk
- >| init program again and change the partition table to what it liked.
- >| BLOODY ANNOYING.
-
- >See above. If you want to be different and choose other than
- >default partitions for the system disk, you have to expect to
- >do some work to compensate.
- I'm sorry if I expected to be as easy as my old sun... ;)
-
- >| Also, the other /home and /tmp partitions.
- >| I had to make the devices BY HAND. I suppose thats no big deal but
- >| it took me a long while to figure out how IRIX did its devices.
- >| What about a MAKEDEV script or similar????
-
- >See /dev/MAKEDEV. We don't bother to make 'unused' partitions
- >any longer, because we were wasting literally hundreds of inodes
- >on the root partition, and customers were running out of inodes
- >before they ran out of space.
- I had a look for this but it was not there. I must have over looked it
- some how. This was a while back now. Once it all works you tend to
- forget about it.
-
- >| Thank god I have a little experience with this stuff. Otherwise
- >| I wouldn't have a hope... All I can say is poor
- >| average Joh Blow who has not a clue.
-
- >And could care less, since he would have just used the defaults.
- >It is tough to go half way, as you find out. You either know a
- >little and use the defaults, or know (or learn) a lot.
- Sorry but defaults just dont cut it. For every situation
- development/cad/dtp/vid work different swap etc are required.
- Falling back on defaults does not sound very professional to me.
- For example, I pumped up the swap 20-30 meg over default. Today I wish
- I pushed it up another 20-30 over that.
-
- >I'm not being sarcastic above, but honest. There are only so many
- >people in the company to write code, scripts, and documentation, and
- >none of us want to spend a lot of effort on something that benefits
- >relatively few people, when there are so many other things to be done
- >that benefit quite a few people. It is all a matter of resources and
- >priorities.
- I understand your problem especially as your range is advancing and
- changing so fast. Its just that I thought small things like this would
- have been worked out years ago in the early OS.
- >--
- >Let no one tell me that silence gives consent, | Dave Olson
- >because whoever is silent dissents. | Silicon Graphics, Inc.
- > Maria Isabel Barreno | olson@sgi.com
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- James Gardiner [Hunter] [hunter@bacchus.esa.oz.au] Expert Solutions Australia
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