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- From: fiddler@concertina.Eng.Sun.COM (steve hix)
- Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
- Subject: Re: RE-MACS COST TOO MUCH (NOT!)
- Date: 31 Aug 1992 19:55:09 GMT
- Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
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- References: <ewright.714853873@convex.convex.com> <1992Aug27.205714.13960@CS.ORST.EDU> <ewright.714956536@convex.convex.com> <1992Aug28.073628.290@CS.ORST.EDU>
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- In article <1992Aug28.073628.290@CS.ORST.EDU> pricec@prism.CS.ORST.EDU (price carl wayne) writes:
- >>Oh? What government agency spent thousands of dollars on a toilet
- >>seat? I know the press *reported* that the US Air Force spent
- >>thousands of dollars on a toilet seat, but that was dead wrong
- >>-- the bill was actually for a toilet *cover*, an injection-
- >>molded plastic part covering the entire toilet and weighing
- >>600 lbs. So, do you know of an example where a government
- >>agency actually did spend that much on a toilet seat. I'm
- >>just trying to see how careful you are with your facts here.
- >>Establishing your credibility, so to speak.
- >
- >Back about 5-7 years the pentagon was laid into by congress for spending
- >Thousands of dollars on toilet seats, along with a number of other fiscal
- >fiascos. I have personally seen the waste in goverment, so I tend to
- >believe this when congress jumped on them and the press reported it, your
- >beliefs may differ of both the government and the press.
-
- I know about the $600 dollar hammer incident.
-
- The initial hammer (part of complete aircraft system that included spares,
- and so on) *did* cost $600.
-
- Of course, you have to include tooling, testing, setting up the packaging
- and so on for the full system.
-
- Follow-on hammers in the production runs didn't cost anywhere near that.
-
- The $n-thousand dollar coffeepot sounded horrific, until you realize that
- it was less expensive than the "coffepots" used in airliners. You can't
- just use an off-the-shelf coffeepot (or coffee maker) in an aircraft, for
- safety concerns, if nothing else. They have to be custom-designed to fit
- the (new) aircraft, 'cause space is a precious, rare resource in them.
-
- There are valid concerns about waste in government spending...beside the
- fact that governments, by their inherent nature, tend toward more and
- more waste. But a good number of published examples are used more for
- pummeling effect than in trying to deal with real problems.
-
- Can you say "deviating from the group's charter"? :}
-
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