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- From: ewright@convex.com (Edward V. Wright)
- Subject: Re: RE-MACS COST TOO MUCH (NOT!)
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- Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 23:02:16 GMT
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- In <1992Aug27.205714.13960@CS.ORST.EDU> pricec@prism.CS.ORST.EDU (price carl wayne) writes:
-
- >If your company paid over $7000 for a 386, your company is not going to
- >make it very long. It sounds like a goverment agency spending thousands
- >on toilet seats,
-
- Oh? What government agency spent thousands of dollars on a toilet
- seat? I know the press *reported* that the US Air Force spent
- thousands of dollars on a toilet seat, but that was dead wrong
- -- the bill was actually for a toilet *cover*, an injection-
- molded plastic part covering the entire toilet and weighing
- 600 lbs. So, do you know of an example where a government
- agency actually did spend that much on a toilet seat. I'm
- just trying to see how careful you are with your facts here.
- Establishing your credibility, so to speak.
-
- >Everyone working for your purchasing department should be fired.
- >The only exception would be if the computer cost you very little
- >and your using packages like autocad that can run into the thousands.
-
- The decision was not made by the purchasing department and was not
- made on the basis of cost. If it was, we would have gotten Macs.
- The cost was so high primarily because we needed two-page monitors
- for word processing. Unfortunately, all the two-page monochrome
- monitors for the PC are nonstandard and could not be guaranteed
- to work with our software. So we had to get color monitors instead,
- and, because we were going to be using them for word processing and
- needed the best possible display quality, rather expensive color
- monitors at that. This made the PCs (surprise!) more expensive
- than the Macs, which could have done the job with much-less-expensive
- monochrome monitors.
-
- >If so, your argument is invalid, because serious software costs
- >the same on either side of the fence.
-
- Oh? Let's see, Hypercard is... free. Toolbook costs... $400,
- is it? That seems like a pretty significant price difference
- to me.
-
-
- >Give OS/2 a shot, you'll realize what a good GUI and OS is. Much nicer
- >than System 7 IMHO.
-
- Well, your opinion is obviously not the opinion of the company
- that developed OS/2. In case you haven't heard, they gave Apple
- the right to use the hottest RISC processor around in exchange
- for the right to use the Macintosh interface in their future
- operating systems. IBM has seen the future, and it is Pink.
-
-
- >This was believed when the mac was developed too, but try a real OS that
- >can do pre-emptive multitasking, allowing you to run a number of programs
- >at once, using more and more of your CPU, and you won't have many CPU
- >cycles wasted.
-
- No. Instead, the OS will come along while my paint program is "wasting"
- time in tight loop, tracking the mouse and updating my drawing. It will
- hit the program over the head with a hammer so that it can give time to
- some more "important" process. Eventually, it will decide to give time
- back to me -- by which time my hand and the mouse have moved, leaving a
- big ugly gap that ruins my drawing. Yes, sir, I can't wait to get
- preemptive multitasking on my PC!
-
-
- >And if you had this OS on a mac, you would run into a big
- >problem,
-
- Oh, really? Obviously, then, you don't believe that UNIX
- is a preemptive operating system, you've never heard of A/UX,
- or you think it's a figment of someone's imagination.
-
- >I have a Mac IIci, PC clone 486/33, and a unix box HP 9000/350. The Mac
- >is a poor comparison even to the HP9000/350 running X-windows. The sad
- >part about this is that the HP only has a 68020-16 in it. The PC blows
- >them both away.
-
- Your arrogance is incredible. I run X-Windows on a PC 8 hours a day.
- Your saying that the Mac is a poor comparison to X-Windows shows that
- you are not only willing to lie to make a point but that you have so
- much contempt for the Mac users you are speaking to that you think
- none of them will see through that lie. When I drag a window on the
- Mac, it moves. Period. When I drag a window under X, it can take
- anywhere from several seconds to several *minutes* for it to move.
- The Mac is a poor comparison? Kid, there ain't no comparison!
-
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