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- From: ewright@convex.com (Edward V. Wright)
- Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
- Subject: Re: MACS COST TOO MUCH (NOT!)
- Message-ID: <ewright.714954330@convex.convex.com>
- Date: 27 Aug 92 22:25:30 GMT
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- In <1992Aug27.202129.12780@CS.ORST.EDU> pricec@prism.CS.ORST.EDU (price carl wayne) writes:
-
- >My point is that there are some people who don't want an OS forced on them
- >and are happy to buy the Machine without one, for the rest, the OS comes
- >with the machine.
-
- Why would anyone want to buy a Macintosh without the operating system?
- Apple makes, to be fair about it, a pretty run-of-the-mill machine,
- by 68000 standards. It's the system software that makes a Macintosh
- a Macintosh. (I should know. My first Mac was an Atari ST.)
-
- >To start, a Macintosh is by no means more powerful than a PC clone, I work
- >on both (IIci and a 486/33) and the PC will blow the Mac out of the water
- >in speed and performance. I have not had the chance to use a quadra yet,
- >but then I guess my pockets aren't deep enough to afford one.
-
- Okay. Let's measure performance based on some simple, but meaningful,
- task. Now, insert a floppy disk into your computer and change its
- name from "A:" to "Price Carl Wayne's floppy." Time yourself to see
- how long it takes. I'll do the same thing. You have a decided advantage,
- since my Mac is not here at work and it will take me a few hours to get
- home. I'll be generous enough to include that time to my benchmark. :-)
-
- Well, if you think that benchmark is unfair, how about we try this one:
- create an icon that you can click on to simultaneously launch several
- programs and documents, possibly located on several disks (even on
- a network).
-
- Performance is not just how many many MHz your processor executes.
-
- >Now, let's get into the cost thing. To buy a 486/50 with a fast 200MB
- >SCSI drive (yes, most high end PC do use SCSI for performance), 16MB of
- >ram (70ns), SVGA monitor (1024x768 w/256 colors max resolution), 14" monitor
- > OS and a mouse would cost me $2500 (from a local store, this is not even
- >going to the mail order places where I could shave off around $500
-
- And how much would it cost you to get a PC that can *use* that 16M
- without limitations such as expanded memory, extended memory, upper
- memory, or segmentation. Better budget at least $10M for your own
- R&D department to do what IBM and Microsoft haven't been able to do.
- Hm, $4000 vs. $10,002,500, and you still say the Macintosh is not cheap? :-)
-