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- From: ewright@convex.com (Edward V. Wright)
- Subject: Re: MACS COST TOO MUCH (NOT!)
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- Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 16:11:23 GMT
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- In <92239.140813ASI509@DJUKFA11.BITNET> ASI509@DJUKFA11.BITNET writes:
-
- >>>such an outstanding replacement as TrueType ?
- > Perhaps there is a :-) missing here.
-
- >No! Actually I don`t want it since I have ATM for OS/2 and Windows. It came
- >for free with OS/2.
-
- Well, you were the one who said that PC users didn't need to pay $49
- for ATM because they had Truetype with Windows 3.1. Perhaps you should
- affix smiley faces to *all* your arguments. And I'm still waiting for
- you to tell me where you got ATM and OS/2 for free.
-
- >And since Apple will include ATM with 7.01 (as I heard) TrueType is
- >obviously a dead end.
-
- Wrong. Apple has said over and over and over again that a future
- release of the operating system (not System 7.01) will include a
- rasterizer that supports *both* ATM and TrueType fonts. In fact,
- there are even plans to enhance TrueType to provide a capability
- similar to Adobe's "multiple masters" with Quickdraw GX.
-
-
- >Either my english is too bad or you don`t want to understand. If you had ever
- >bought a computer you would have probably noticed companies selling computers
- >w/o OS, OSes w/o computers, and computers with OSes.
-
- I have bought (or leased) four computers in my life: a Radio Shack TRS-80,
- an Osborne 1, an Atari ST, and a Macintosh IIsi. All came with operating
- systems. I'll repeat, no real computer company sells a machine without an
- operating system, anymore than a reliable car dealer sells a car without an
- engine.
-
-
- >Even Apple will be glad to sell you a copy of System 7 w/o computer.
-
- No, what Apple is really charging you for is (overpriced) documentation
- and technical support. If all you want is System 7, you can get that
- free.
-
- >And they will charge you considerably if you want AU/X.
-
- Of course, why anyone would want AU/X is an interesting question.
-
-
- >If you buy one of the mid-class or bigger PS/2 you get OS/2.
-
- You get more than that. You get OS/2 and the right to pay through
- the nose when IBM upgrades to OS/2 v3 or OS/3 or whatever may come
- next.
-
- >I see you are a frequent reader of my postings. So you sure remember the one
- >with the pricing table for a IIsi in _this country_. I don`t have the US PC
- >clone prices so I compare the prices for PC and Mac in _this country_.
-
-
- So, I assume that either
-
- a) the prices you quote for PC clones include a German-language operating
- system, German keyboard, and German scripts that support all word-processing,
- page-layout, spreadsheet, and other software, or
-
- b) you are once again up to your old trick of taking two machines with
- vastly different features and capabilities, claiming that they are
- "equivalent machines," and comparing prices to make your point.
-
- How many people out there are betting on b? :-)
-
- Not all computers are created equal. If a Macintosh (or any other
- machine) is more powerful than a cheap fly-by-night PC clone, there
- is no reason why it *should* cost the same. If all you want is a
- stripped-down CPU, yes, you can pay less by getting a PC clone. But
- if you start to add in the cost of the hardware and software features
- that come standard with the Macintosh, you will soon find that you
- paid more for your PC clone than you would have for a Mac. You can't
- deny that. Your only response is, "Well, I don't reall need a fast
- SCSI drive, sound input, sound output, support for multiple monitors
- at different resolutions and color depths on a common desktop, foreign-
- language script support, decent graphics software, a good color monitor,
- the ability to use megabytes, even gigabytes of RAM without limitation....)
- If you want a stripped-down, crippled machine with limited capabilities,
- by all means, buy a cheap PC clone. Hell, buy a Commodore 64. I understand
- they're very popular in Germany. But if you a versatile machine capable
- of supporting a full range of productive and creative tasks, buy a Macintosh.
-
- Of course, if a Mac IIsi really does sell for $3200 more in Germany than
- it does in the United States, there's an obvious solution. Fly to the US
- and buy one here. You should be able to pay the import duty, replace the
- US power supply with a foreign one, and still have enough money left over
- for a very nice vacation.
-
-