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- Subject: Re: What makes OS on ROM _WORSE_ than one on disk???
- Message-ID: <1992Aug30.114032.4562@usage.csd.unsw.OZ.AU>
- Date: 30 Aug 92 11:40:32 GMT
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- In article <Btp9uG.5nw@csugrad.cs.vt.edu> jaker@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (Jake Rose) writes:
- >talan@tension.UUCP (Dave Bicking) writes:
- >
- >
- >As a friend of mine pointed out, you can have another *megabyte* (or two) for
- >the cost of the ROMs, and in RAM the software runs faster. It's also easily
- >user-upgradeable, and doing so yourself won't void any warranty agreements.
- >Loading the OS entirely from disk, in my opinion, is vastly superior to slow,
- >user-hostile firmware. The target of CBM should be to make the Amiga easy to
- >use, upgrade, and code on. Accomplishing that would make the Amiga much easier
- >to *sell*.
-
- Those roms better be on HARD disk !!
-
-
- >>You next infer that the Amiga ROM upgrade is vastly more expensive than a disk
- >>upgrade. Well, compare a $45 Amiga ROM to the $150 Windows package and the
- >>equally expensive OS/2. I can get DOS 5.0 from a computer store for "as
- >>little as" $70. Gee, ROMS are terrible, aren't they? Too bad we don't NEED
- >>at least 4 MEGS of ram just to run ONE process. I wish I had my OS on disk!
-
- It's a diffren story. Windows and OS/2 were published still buggy
- with a promise of a cheap upgrade. And depending on what comes with the rom
- pakage no one must complain about the quality of the pakage ie. documentation.
- You can also get the roms much cheaper as replacement parts.
-
-
- >
- >The Amiga ROMs for 2.04 take up, I believe, 512K. The rest is on disk. I
- >haven't seen this $45 price tag on the ROMs, either. More like $90. Windows
- >and OS/2 are both $50 as upgrades, by the way. Just because MS and IBM have
- >outrageous pricing schemes (sort of like CBM's WRT new hardware) on their
- >software doesn't mean that it must be more expensive for them to produce the
- >software on disk. Most of the cost of any software package in terms of
- >distribution materials is in the *documentation*. Publishing is expensive.
- How does the "Upgrade" version of OS/2 and Win 3.1 compare to WB2.04 ?
- And how much diff did you get ie. was it worth the value.
- Consider 1.3 to 2.04 and then who used win 3.0
-
-
- >
- >>Dude, the A1000 came out about the time the MAC 512 was in rumor stage. Do
- >>you even HEAR about the Mac 512? ANYWHERE? Be DAMN glad you can even RUN the
- >>new Amiga Dos! Try and run Windows or OS/2 on a standard AT - Any luck? When
- >>was the last time Apple or IBM offered a massive discount on their new models
- >>to people with an Apple IIgs or IBM AT? *Yeesh* Give a little service, and
- >>people bitch because they don't have the WORLD delivered at their feet!
- >
- >IBM controls very little of the PC market - their competition offers machines
- >at prices that make CBM's "discounts" look silly. CBM thinks that they have
- >a captive audience in the Amiga world, and that they can do what they like
- >with us. They're wrong. I already have another platform lined up if they
- >keep screwing with us and refuse to pour funds into R&D as they *need* to.
- >That platform is NeXT. Not popular in any sense of the word, but cutting edge.
- >I'm sick of being left in the dark as all the software advances go elsewhere.
-
- Hehehehe, you want an NeXT ? More like the bleading edge of
- technology :-) Applications not supporting you :-) And you want NeXT.
- You want Microsoft get Amax 2.5 and Word 5.0 But to go for NeXT
- just for the reasons you mention above ?!?!?!?!?
-
-
- >
- >>>+++
- >>>NO CARRIER
- >>
- >>
- >>Dave
- >
- >Very friendly attitude.
-
- George
-