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- From: kehlet@kehlet.adsp.sub.org (Jesper Kehlet)
- Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
- Subject: Re: Amiga Comms (was RE: Amiga Kiosks?)
- Message-ID: <kehlet.06kg@kehlet.adsp.sub.org>
- Date: 26 Aug 92 16:56:20 GMT
- References: <1992Aug21.162454.7251@TorreyPinesCA.ncr.com> <rwm.714583210@atronx.OCUnix.On.Ca>
- Organization: Compos Mentis Software Systems
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- X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16e (7/4/92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith
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- In article <rwm.714583210@atronx.OCUnix.On.Ca> rwm@atronx.OCUnix.On.Ca (Russell McOrmond) writes:
- > jgrimm@TorreyPinesCA.ncr.com (Jeffrey Grimmett 9999) writes:
- > >>XPR *WILL* be available in the future, but why use them if the built-in are
- > >>faster and even more reliable?
- >
- > >Good. Although there are legit gripes about XPR, it helps to have that
- > >ability in case someone wants to use something you didn't want to implement.
- >
- > >*plus* seen the same thing in Term. I have the feeling this is an XPRZModem
- > >bug instead (tons o' errors, too)
- >
- > I hope you realize the connection between these two problems. The more
- > people that implemente their 'internal' Zmodem, and push it as a 'feature',
- > then the less likely that a fully implemented XPR based Zmodem will be
- > released. True or not (I personally think not), people have this 'image'
- > that an internal protocol is going to somehow be better than a properly
- > written XPR version of the same protocol. The fact that only the
- > 'freeware' style people are working on XPR based protocols (IE: The people
- > who don't get paid or supported for their development) will always make
- > this a problem.
-
- So, let's talk about Zmodem here, since it the most popular protocol available.
-
- When you implement Zmodem in your terminal program, it is very much like
- implementation of the very same, but in a library.
-
- The difference is really not that great. But when you call library
- functions, you lose to major overhead on those and that's bad!
-
- No matter, how you do it, built-in protocols will, if written properly,
- always be more efficient than the XPR ones.
-
- And now the financial aspect:
-
- When I do a fast, small and efficient Zmodem implement, I still have to pay
- my bills. When I announce it as a being a good Zmodem implement and it IS,
- then people will, if not pay more, then at least pay for it!
-
- I am doing a pretty good living, earning enough to "drive a pretty nice car
- and own a pretty nice house", but nobody lived on love and water alone --
- and survived it! And I still have to pay off programmers -- I'm not doing
- it all by myself!
-
-
- > If everyone wants better protocols, encouraging authors to support XPR
- > (On both sides of the interface by writing XPR's themselves as well), we'll
- > all be better off.
-
- Except for those of us considering overhead and flexibility.
-
-
- > (P.S. Jack, let's not start our AMIGA_COMMS flamewar again - I'm just
- > presenting this side, and I think most know you disagree ;-)
-
- Hey, I'll start it for him... 8-d:-)
-
-
- > Opinions expressed in this message are my Own. I represent nobody else.
- > Russell McOrmond rwm@Atronx.OCUnix.On.Ca Net Support:(613) 230-2282(V.32Bis)
- > FidoNet 1:163/109 Welmat Help 1:1/139 Current WELMAT 'keeper of sources'.
-
- --
- Jesper Kehlet, Compos Mentis Software Systems -- A Kind Of Magic
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- As long as I speak for myself, my employees can do that, too...
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