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- Path: sparky!uunet!mcsun!sunic!dkuug!diku!torbenm
- From: torbenm@diku.dk (Torben AEgidius Mogensen)
- Newsgroups: comp.sys.acorn
- Subject: Re: Acorn Press Release 6 of 8 (A3000 range)
- Message-ID: <1992Sep4.080105.13976@odin.diku.dk>
- Date: 4 Sep 92 08:01:05 GMT
- References: <18106@acorn.co.uk> <1992Sep1.152535.15359@odin.diku.dk> <6122@armltd.uucp>
- Sender: torbenm@freke.diku.dk
- Organization: Department of Computer Science, U of Copenhagen
- Lines: 37
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- jbiggs@armltd.uucp (John Biggs) writes:
-
- >torbenm@diku.dk (Torben AEgidius Mogensen) writes:
-
- >>A good (and not unrealistic?) solution would be a single chip with an
- > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
- >>ARM 3 equivalent, write buffer (as on the ARM 600), controller chips
- >>and FPU, clocked around 40 MHz. Improved versions of VIDC and MEMC
- >>would be handy, but they may be hard to use without modifying larger
- >>portions of the software and hardware. I don't think Acorn will use
- >>MEMC 2. A more realistic solution would be something closer to MEMC 1a,
- >>but using a two level page table similar to MEMC 2.
-
- >Might as well put a keyboard on the same die too, it'll be big enough!!
-
- Since you are from ARM Ltd. I assume that you know what you are
- talking about. Can't harm to do a little wishful thinking though ;-).
-
- My reasons for thinking this not entirely unrealistic is that other
- manufacturers have made single chip processors containing a number of
- gates that I would think (not knowing the size of your FPU) exceeds
- that of the suggested chip. Comparing with the ARM 600, a simpler MEMC
- could save some area. The VIDC etc. are not huge, my guess is that
- they are similar to an ARM 2 in size, or even smaller. So adding these
- would "only" double the size, or less. The major unknown is the FPU.
- But even without this, an ARM 3 equivalent that can replace the
- ARM 250 would be nice for upgrading the new machines.
-
- Also, 40 MHz seems not unrealistic, seeing that the early ARM 3s ran
- at 30 MHz (with samples going up to 36 MHz). And that was several
- years ago.
-
- A major problem with a large combined chip could be yield, though.
- Bad yield would tend to increase price. I heard that the reason for
- changing the ARM 3 to run only 25 MHz was bad yield.
-
- Torben Mogensen (torbenm@diku.dk)
-