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- From: rr2b+@ANDREW.CMU.EDU (Robert Andrew Ryan)
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- Subject: Re: Hasn't the message line bogosity gone on long enough?
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- Date: 26 Aug 92 16:05:03 GMT
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- Excerpts from internet.other.info-andrew: 26-Aug-92 Re: Hasn't the
- message line.. Zalman Stern@decwrl.dec. (810)
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- > If it overflows, build a dialog box with a large message line and pop
- > that up instead. See how people like that.
-
- Unfortunately this can't really cover the case of a input request, since
- the message line could grow substantially during input.
-
- Excerpts from internet.other.info-andrew: 26-Aug-92 Re: Hasn't the
- message line.. Zalman Stern@decwrl.dec. (810)
-
- > You could dynamically resize the
- > message line instead. Both of these should be relatively easy to do if I
- recall frameview at all. (Which I probably don't).
-
- Yes this could be done without too much hacking on frameview, but the
- runtime cost for the redraws could be prohibitive esp over slow
- networks. Another possible solution to this might be to give text a
- notion of horizontal scrolling. (though not with a scrollbar please :-)
-
- Excerpts from internet.other.info-andrew: 26-Aug-92 Re: Hasn't the
- message line.. Zalman Stern@decwrl.dec. (810)
-
- > In general, message lines are a difficult proposition to manage properly
- > in a graphical UI. Its 1970's (or perhaps 1960s) technology. I would say
- > that effort is better spent building a real dialog manager for ATK.
- > Look at the Macintosh Toolbox, MacApp, or MS-Windows for examples.
-
- I actually believe one of the wins of ATK and Emacs (gnu and gosling)
- over Macintosh Toolbox and Motif is the fact that they have a message
- line. In the Mac and Motif model, you have to pop up a dialog box for
- any transient message, obscuring part of a window most probably. When
- a message is purely informational this is a waste.
-
- -Rob Ryan
- Andrew Consortium
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