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- From: djarrett@gandalf.ca (Dave Jarrett)
- Subject: Re: TCP/IP over ISDN
- Message-ID: <1992Aug27.182348.19584@gandalf.ca>
- Organization: Gandalf Data Ltd., Nepean, Ontario
- References: <tb.714899933@materna>
- Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 18:23:48 GMT
- Lines: 76
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- In article <tb.714899933@materna> tb@Materna.DE (Torsten Beyer) writes:
- >Hi Folks,
- >
- >I have a problem concerning TCP/IP over ISDN. We have an ISDN implementation
- >for TCP/IP that is able of a so called short hold mode. This means, ISDN
- >connections that are idle for a certain time get closed without closing the
- >overlaying TCP connections. As soon as one of the communication partners
- >starts sending data again, a new ISDN connection is established. All this
- >happens (nearly) transparently to the IP layer.
- >
- >However there is a problem: How can a server tell wether an established
- >connection is still established or already broken due to a crash on the
- >client side. We don't want to poll clients (i.e. ping) since this would
- >actually break the cost advantage of ISDN short hold mode.
- >
- >From my point of view the only way a server can tell a connection is
- >broken, is when the same client sends a SYN from the same client port to the
- >same server port. Is this true or are there other ways of detecting that a
- >connection is broken (or was broken) ?
- >--
- >Torsten Beyer mail : tb@Materna.DE
- >Dr. Materna GmbH vox humana : +49 231 5599 225
- >Vosskuhle 37, D-4600 Dortmund fax machina : +49 231 5599 100
- > "There must be a place, under the sun, where hearts of olden glory grow young"
-
-
- As far as I know, there is no way of implicitly determining the
- difference between a client on hold and a client that has been powered
- off. The only way for the server to determine if a disconnected client
- is still capable of receiving traffic, is to poll the client.
-
- A polling method that appears to be very cost effective might
- work as follows:
-
- - The ISDN server maintains a idle timer for each client LAN connection.
- If data packets are received from the client within the preprescribed
- period of time, no poll will be neccessary.
-
- - When the idle timer expires, the ISDN server issue a B-channel
- connect request to the client ISDN station. The user-user data field
- in the connect request contains a "poll" command.
-
- - If the client is still alive, it returns a "disconnect" response to
- the connect request with predefined user "cause" value.
-
- - Receipt of a disconnect response, with a user rejection code,
- informs the server that the client is still alive and capable of
- receiving LAN data.
-
- - If the server receives a disconnect response with any other "cause"
- code, it knows that the client has been powered off or disconnected.
-
- This approach has two advantages over polling using SYNs:
-
- 1. No connection is ever established during the polling process,
- so no connection tariffs are applicable.
-
- 2. This approach is LAN protocol independant.
-
-
- This approach depends on the availability of user-user data in the
- connect request. If your local PTT does not support user-user data,
- it might be possible to issue the connect request with a specific,
- predefined DDI (extension number) used only for polls.
-
- If anyone has reason to believe that this approach will not work, or
- can think of viable alternative approaches, feel free to comment.
-
- It might be a good idea to post your question to the comp.dcom.isdn newsgroup,
- where all the real ISDN gurus are.
-
- Regards,
- Dave J.
-
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