home *** CD-ROM | disk | FTP | other *** search
- Newsgroups: comp.protocols.ppp
- Path: sparky!uunet!haven.umd.edu!darwin.sura.net!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!mstar!mstar!bob
- From: bob@MorningStar.Com (Bob Sutterfield)
- Subject: Re: PPP host is a router?
- In-Reply-To: ccewch@nuscc.nus.sg's message of 2 Sep 92 08: 12:16 GMT
- Message-ID: <BOB.92Sep2105458@volitans.MorningStar.Com>
- Sender: news@MorningStar.Com
- Nntp-Posting-Host: volitans.morningstar.com
- Organization: Morning Star Technologies
- References: <1992Sep2.081216.22430@nuscc.nus.sg>
- Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 14:55:05 GMT
- Lines: 57
-
- In article <1992Sep2.081216.22430@nuscc.nus.sg> ccewch@nuscc.nus.sg (Wong Chee Heng) writes:
- When a PC dial into a unix host using telnet over PPP, the PC
- appear as a IP node right? What about the UNIX host? It becomes a
- IP router right? If that is the case then each modem connected to
- the UNIX host will be having a different network interface ...
-
- Right and Right and "Right so far".
-
- which need a different subnet number! is it true?
-
- Not necessarily.
-
- Or all the modems/dial-in lines can be considered within one
- network separated (different from the subnet number the UNIX host
- is in) and share one common IP subnet number,
-
- That's one way to do it, and it fits well with the normal way IP
- routing is handled.
-
- or in fact all the dial-in PC can share the same subnet number of
- the UNIX host and become part of the same network the UNIX host is
- in?
-
- That's the other way to do it, and it fits well enough with normal IP
- routing by faking direct connectivity to the office network. Just
- instruct the office UNIX host to return its Ethernet address in
- response to ARP requests for the PC's IP address (e.g. `arp -s
- pc-IP-address unix-ether-address pub') so that everything else on the
- office network will know how to get to the PC.
-
- One big advantage of the ARP-but-don't-route technique is that it
- requires no change to your routing tables, since you're not really
- routing IP packets between networks. Another big advantage is that
- you needn't apply to your campus network administrator for Yet Another
- Subnet for your department's own use, particularly since a
- dialup-based subnet's address space will tend to be even more sparsely
- populated than that of a subnet on a LAN, which may cause the network
- administrator to be reluctant to hand you another subnet number.
-
- In our network, do it both ways. Some of our home Suns are on the
- same IP subnet number as the main office backbone Ethernet, and some
- are on their own subnet number. They all dial into the same modem
- pool, attached to a Sun. For more discussion, you might find some
- useful tidbits in section 7.1 of the Morning Star PPP User Guide,
- available from ftp.morningstar.com:pub/ppp/user-guide-2up.ps.Z.
-
- Whichever case is it, how does it affect the IP routing table? Is
- static route required, or RIP is used?
-
- Our in-office network is simple enough, and the routes stable enough,
- that we use static routing. Some users run routed on their UNIX hosts
- and talk RIP with their routers. Users with even more complex network
- topologies, and with even greater requirements that the UNIX hosts
- participate in the routing infrastructure, prefer to run gated and
- talk any of gated's myriad routing protocols, including OSPF. Use
- whichever you need to solve your particular problem. If the route is
- in the kernel's routing table, IP doesn't care how it got there.
-