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- Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kerberos
- Path: sparky!uunet!stanford.edu!ksr.com!dean
- From: dean@ksr.com
- Subject: Re: New User Accounts
- Message-ID: <199209021933.AA04400@magrathea.ksr.com>
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- Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 19:33:46 GMT
- Lines: 43
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- My thought is that a service key (from the /etc/srvtab) can be used
- to get a ticket and a session key for the "kerberos-SecurID" server.
-
- The securID code would be encrypted using this session key and sent
- to the kerberos-SecurID server, which could authenticate the code and
- change the kerberos password (private key) to be the securID code.
-
- The kerberos-securID server ask the securID server if the code is
- valid, and performs the next code/new pin protocol with the client.
- This communication would be encrypted in the session key obtained
- previously.
-
- When SecurID code is authenticated, the password is changed to the
- securID code, and is changed again in 30 seconds to a random key so
- the old code cannot be reused. (Thus limiting the damage if the real
- code is stolen).
-
- If the SecurID code in not authenticated, the kerberos password
- (private key) is not changed.
-
- The kerberos (re)initialization now proceeds as usual, kerberos sends
- a ticket for the principal encrypted in the principal's current
- kerberos key
-
- Since the workstation has the correct SecurID code, it can decrypt
- the response and obtain the ticket and the new session key only if
- the securID authentication was successful.
-
- I think the only way to compromise this scheme is to steal the
- service key in the /etc/srvtab file and decrypt the communication
- with the kerberos-SecurID server. If one could do this, one could
- also steal the securID code as it were entered, by replacing the
- login or kinit program. The problem of capturing good passwords
- with a compromised workstation is not addressed by kerberos, and only
- limited by SecurID by virtue of the changing password.
-
- What say you?
-
- --Dean
-
- Dean Anderson
- KSR Computing Facilities
- Kendall Square Research
-