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- From: linstee@dutecaj.et.tudelft.nl (Erik van Linstee)
- Subject: Re: Windows == OS
- Message-ID: <1992Aug28.091611.25654@donau.et.tudelft.nl>
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- Organization: Delft University of Technology, Dept. of Electrical Engineering
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- Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 09:16:11 GMT
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- Monroe.Thomas@ttlg.UUCP (Monroe Thomas) writes:
-
- >EVL>Bollocks all, if Windows were to be an OS it'd be a bloody daft one.
- > >Ever hear of an OS you can quit and still have a functioning machine?!
- > >Windows IS a shell with a GUI,a large one though. The only reason
- > >Windows features the large amount of functionalism a lot of you
- > >take as proof for it to be an OS is because DOS is even less competent.
- > >Consider this, if DOS wasn't the farce it is but an advanced operating
- > >system like it should have been and Windows would be the GUI it is
- > >running on top of this DOS. This DOS would now feature functions for
- > >memory and resource management Windows would still have to offer them
- > >to its applications if only to pass them directly to DOS. Hence the
- > >current API is no proof at all of it being an OS. It is just another
- > >layer in a machines hierarchy. The fact that it must and can bypass
- > >DOS for functionality DOS doesn't provide is only proof of the
- > >incompetence of DOS.
-
- >EVL>Well, this should prolong this thread for another few weeks :-)
-
- >Yup...
-
- >What you are arguing is nice in theory. The fact is DOS can't handle
- >resource management for Windows apps. Thus Windows must do it. Since
- >Windows must do it, it is providing operating system services. It
- >does so by shutting DOS down, except for some file management.
- >Thus, the postulation that Windows is 90% of an OS is essentially
- >correct.
-
- >It would be nice if DOS did indeed handle resource allocation for a
- >multitasking environ. Sadly it does not. Thus, any GUI of Windows
- >proportions must also provide OS services. This is not wishful
- >thinking. This is the plain truth. DESQview does the same on a much
- >smaller scale. DV might be called 30% of an OS.
-
- >Nobody here is claiming Windows is a full fledged OS... it isn't since
- >it doesn't meet all the requirements. It meets about 90% of them
- >tho'...
-
- Right you are. But not a full fledged OS isn't an OS, like a child
- can be nearly a full grown man, but isn't and at this point one's
- point of view becomes essential, since the child will obviously
- want to be considered a man but the man will obviously still treat
- it as a child. Who is right is then only a matter of definition.
- Still if we would go around calling everything that is 90% of
- something to be that something the result would be silly. In fact,
- you could then argue a man to be a woman since they are so much
- a like except for some trivial differences we might as well not
- bother to note those differences. See, silly right? So based on
- this and on the fact that Windows meets x% (x != 100) of an OS's
- requirements we should be able to agree that Windows is not an OS
- and you may add, but comes close, if you like and I wont hate you
- for that :-)
-
- Erik
-
- When I was scuba diving one day I nearly saw a rabbit,
- I would have seen it if it had been there!
-
- >-Monroe
-
- > * OLX 2.2 * "These test scores look better," Tom remarked.
-
- > * Origin: Through the Looking Glass (42:100/14)
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- Erik van Linstee | linstee@duteca.et.tudelft.nl | I'll be back ...
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