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- Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.misc
- Path: sparky!uunet!kentrox!ronc
- From: ronc@kentrox.uucp (Ron Christian)
- Subject: Re: Looking for review of FrameMaker
- Message-ID: <1992Aug27.180730.13993@kentrox.uucp>
- Organization: ADC Kentrox, Portland OR
- References: <1992Aug26.005521.21592@nuscc.nus.sg>
- Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 18:07:30 GMT
- Lines: 92
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- In article <1992Aug26.005521.21592@nuscc.nus.sg> matcsp@nuscc.nus.sg (Chan Shih-Ping) writes:
- >Subject says almost all. Is FrameMaker for windows already shipping?
-
- Yes.
-
- >Can someone post or e-mail a review? Thanks.
-
- Short review:
-
- It's great. You need it. Go buy it.
-
- Less short review:
-
- I've been using Frame for years on the Sun platform. When I heard it
- was coming out on the PC, I was less than thrilled. I couldn't see how
- it could work well on such wimpy hardware and kludgy operating system.
-
- Then, I got a chance to use it. On a 40 Mhz 386DX Frame Maker performs as
- well as it does on local disk on a Sparcstation IPC. ("Local disk" is an
- important consideration, 'cause in many companies, the user talks to Frame
- over a network through either the X or NFS protocols -or both-, and the
- performance can get downright sluggish.)
-
- Moreover, Frame on the PC does some very important things that Frame on the
- Sun doesn't do. Adobe Type Manager comes bundled with PC Frame. Printers
- other than PostScript are supported. (A fatal shortcoming of the Sun version,
- in my opinion.)
-
- And all this for half the cost of a Sun single user license. With the money
- you save, you could very nearly purchase the PC to run it on.
-
- With one caveat (see below) I suspect Frame on the Sun is going to start
- fading. PCs are getting cheaper and Suns seem to be getting more expensive.
- (I know, the bang for the buck is going up, but still...) If you already
- have Suns, it would behoove you to find out if PC Frame would run under
- SoftPC...
-
- True, PC Frame doesn't have the floating license concept, but with a list
- price that's 1/3 the price of a floating license, it starts to become practical
- to buy every Frame user their own copy.
-
- Frame on the PC still has an important shortcoming, and that's less a function
- of Frame and more a function of the hardware commonly available on the PC.
- The maximum *commodity* resolution on a PC (I.E., the tightest resolution
- that's common and "cheap") is still 1024 X 768. I do most of my work at
- 100% magnification and I need a display that's at least 900 pixels tall to
- display a full page at this setting. You can't do it on a "common" PC. The
- best you can do is display a partial page and rock it up and down.
-
- To be fair, Frame on the much more expensive NeXT has the same limitation. At
- least on the PC, you have the *option* of putting in a higher density video
- card, where on the NeXT you're stuck with the relitively low density of the
- "Megapixel display". (Thank you Steve, for yet another closed architecture.)
-
- Before Frame on the PC was released, I was struggling with Word Perfect
- and hating every minute of it. When Frame was released, it was like coming
- home. All my WP documents migrated to Frame with no problems. I no longer
- have to deal the garish primary colors and primitive PC-like interfaces.
- Nor do I have to worry about learning an "editor" (MS Word) *and* a "typesetter"
- (Ventura or Pagemaker, whatever). Frame lends itself well to the generation
- of both trivial and complex documents.
-
- Frame is not without it's problems. Frame Technology has traditionally
- declined to support translation from Frame format to other document formats.
- (Documents check into Frame, but they don't check out...) Suppport for
- translation from other packages to Frame is still not complete. I have seen
- both these factors cause Frame Technology to lose sales.
-
- Even if Frame is the greatest thing since sliced milk, there are still people
- in the world who for one reason or another *must* spend time on some other
- document preparation system. The lack of good support for format translation
- (not just into, but also out of maker) gives people the impression that Frame
- documents exist only in their own private little world. This translates into
- some reluctance to get "locked into" the product.
-
- And that's a shame, 'cause Frame is a great product. On the PC, it runs
- surprisingly (I mean SURPRISINGLY) well, and the price is finally in the
- right ball park. If you like Frame on the Sun, and even if you hate PCs,
- you will like Frame on the PC.
-
- Hardware on which I did the evaluation:
-
- AMD 40 Mhz 386 DX, 4 Mbytes RAM, 120 Mbyte fast IDE disk, Trident 8900
- video card, 14 inch generic super-VGA monitor, DOS 5.0, Windows 3.1. Not
- your top of the line hardware by any means.
-
-
-
- Ron
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- Barbara Bush - Colin Powell for '92
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