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- From: librik@cory.Berkeley.EDU (David Librik)
- Subject: SUMMARY: Programmers' favorite BIOSes
- Message-ID: <librik.714985479@cory.Berkeley.EDU>
- Summary: Summary of responses to query on BIOSes.
- Keywords: BIOS
- Sender: nntp@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU (NNTP Poster)
- Nntp-Posting-Host: cory
- Organization: University of California, at Berkeley
- Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 07:04:39 GMT
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- A week or so ago, I posted a note asking what BIOS programmers preferred,
- keeping in mind that real hackers are constantly having to reset their
- machines, but also want a reliable, fast, and compatible BIOS.
-
- The response was overwhelmingly in favor of AMI's BIOS. One person mentioned
- that Phoenix's BIOS was just as reliable, though it lacked some customization
- options that AMI supported, and that the "DEL" bug was gone from the latest
- AMI BIOS. (The latter refers to the fact that if you hold down DEL "too long"
- while rebooting -- even if you release it well before the message "Press DEL
- for setup" is printed -- the BIOS was thrown into setup mode.)
-
- Thanks to everyone who responded. For those who'd like to see more, I've
- included (edited) versions of the responses, which follow.
-
- - David Librik 'Crac Cymraeg!'
- librik@cory.Berkeley.edu
-
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- >From: Michael B Plecs <plecs_b@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu>
-
- I personally prefer AMI BIOS, because in my experience, it is the one that
- is most compatible (with everything) and most trouble-free. Also, with the
- latest BIOS chips, the setup is a breeze, and quite user-friendly.
-
- If you have a problem with accidentally calling up the setup program when you
- hotboot, for crying out loud, don't hold down alt-ctrl-del for so long! I've
- never had a problem with inadvertentently summoning the BIOS setup; just punch
- Alt-ctrl-del briefly, and let the system go.
-
- AMI BIOS all the way. And you can most certainly order a specific BIOS on your
- computer. If you can't, you should talk to another dealer.
-
- Good luck!
- LC
-
- >From phil@cs.utexas.edu Mon Aug 24 11:01:24 1992
-
- I have AMI for the 486. It is the slowest thing I've ever seen when
- it boots. I have not noticed any other problems. I have not been
- thrown into setup accidently.
-
- I like all of the setup options it offers. It shows all of the
- details of the harddisk types. It allows all sorts of non standard
- customizations, like like the default state of the num-lock.
-
- --Phil
-
- >From aki@cruzio.santa-cruz.ca.us Mon Aug 24 21:31:48 1992
-
- I prefer AMI.
- And usually you get a choice of at least AMI, Award and Phoenix.
-
- Aki.
-
- >From: REE700A%MAINE.BITNET@cmsa.Berkeley.EDU
-
- I'm not the experienced one, but my friend (a reseller) insists on
- AMI... The "bug" you refer to is people holding the <del> key too
- long on <alt><ctl><del>, let the fucking key go when it starts to boot!
- I've never run into a compatibility problem with AMI (unless you
- consider the fact that it still looks for ROM BASIC as a last ditch
- effort to be a "compatibility problem").
-
- >From: dougm@pnet51.orb.mn.org (Doug Mcintyre)
-
- I've used both of the two major BIOSs now, (AMI and Phoenix) in both
- relatively new versions. They are pretty much comparable now. Memory tests are
- much faster now (no more 5 minutes of testing 512k of RAM, like the original
- PC), it takes about 4 seconds to test 5M of memory for either of them. The
- phoenix BIOS lets you enter setup with just alt+cntrl+s, while AMI you have to
- reboot to enter setup (Hit DEL to enter setup while POST is going on). There
- is no bug with going into setup accidently with the 12/12/91 version.
-
- I've run anything and everything on both BIOSes, no imcompatibilities.
- Overall, I'd take the AMI bios, since it supports changing a lot of the
- chipset features, whereas the Phoenix BIOS generally doesn't let you change
- things like the ISA bus speed, and whatnot.
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