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- From: peter@taronga.com (Peter da Silva)
- Subject: Re: Hackers and Pagans and Phre
- Message-ID: <G9PIT7B@taronga.com>
- Organization: Taronga Park BBS
- References: <199208261457.AA23696@eff.org>
- Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 01:03:23 GMT
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- In article <199208261457.AA23696@eff.org> mc/G=Brad/S=Hicks/OU=0205925@mhs.attmail.com writes:
- >Peter, you're missing my point
-
- No, I'm not missing the point. I'm denying that your analogy has any validity.
- The circumstances were *radically* different. Paganism is not, in and of
- itself, an illegal activity. The small freelance nuts harassing you were
- not also engaged in illegal and unethical activities that you shared. The
- fact that they were Pagans is irrelevant.
-
- >But Pagans in the late 80s and hackers/phreaks in the early 90s do have
- >something in common, though: a lot of unfounded hysteria among the public,
- >fed mostly by ignorance and bad news reporting, is whipping government in
- >general and law enforcement in particular to trample the Constitution
- >underfoot.
-
- This might be true, but in the Pagan's case they have done nothing wrong.
- The phreaks have.
-
- >As a result, I think it would behoove current and former
- >hackers and phreaks to behave in a way that doesn't pour gasoline on a
- >raging fire. And when there's a McCarthy-style witch-hunt going on, it is
- >just not right to cooperate with it just to punish people you don't like.
-
- THIS IS NOT A MCCARTHY STYLE WITCH HUNT. The people being hunted *are*
- engaged in objectively dangerous and unethical behaviour. McCarthy was
- after people whose only sin was to disagree.
-
- This isn't to say it's not outrageous, nor that they're not overreacting,
- nor that they're not sucking up innocent people (Steve Jackson, for example)
- into the mess. But in this case, unlike the McCarthy witch trials, the
- pagan situation, or the original Salem witch trials for that matter, there
- is a real problem at the core. The folks harassing Goggins, if they did
- all of the things alleged, are crooks regardless of whether they harassed
- him. The neopagans you were talking about weren't.
-
- By binding the two events together, you will hurt the pagans and not help
- yourself.
- --
- `-_-'
- Have you hugged your wolf today? 'U`
-
- Peter da Silva, Taronga Park BBS, Houston, TX +1 713 568 0480/1032
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