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- From: pcg@aber.ac.uk (Piercarlo Grandi)
- Newsgroups: comp.object
- Subject: Re: O.M(...) vs M(...), and is the Real World O-O?
- Message-ID: <PCG.92Aug26124457@aberdb.aber.ac.uk>
- Date: 26 Aug 92 12:44:57 GMT
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- Reply-To: pcg@aber.ac.uk (Piercarlo Grandi)
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- In-Reply-To: kers@hplb.hpl.hp.com's message of 25 Aug 92 07: 51:05 GMT
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- On 25 Aug 92 07:51:05 GMT, kers@hplb.hpl.hp.com (Chris Dollin) said:
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- kers> (Ralph Johnson) writes:
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- johnson> [responding to me, and this time I've killed the context]
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- johnson> The point I am trying to make is that no model is completely
- johnson> accurate, even computer ones. Describing a system with any
- johnson> formal language will always be incomplete. That's life. The
- johnson> question is whether one model is more complete, easier to
- johnson> understand, executes faster, etc. than another, not whether
- johnson> either is perfect.
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- kers> Yes, and I hope I don't seem to be contradictory if I agree with
- kers> this (and the other things you said in your post). Part of my
- kers> argument with Bob H was about his presumed belief that a
- kers> particular OOP model of objects, extended in some way (for
- kers> example, adding concurrency), was the *right*, *true*, and
- kers> *natural* way of describing the world.
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- I have this delightful quote to offer:
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- _If I hear the phrase 'everything is an object' once more, I think I
- will scream._ (Stonebraker, 1988)
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- If he is reading this group he will have lost his voice by now :-).
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