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- From: aultj@rpi.edu (Jim Ault)
- Subject: Re: Frequency of NFS lock problems w/ NFS mounted mail spool
- In-Reply-To: linda@uni-paderborn.de's message of Tue, 1 Sep 1992 12:55:45 GMT
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- Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute
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- <LINDA.92Sep1135545@matisse.uni-paderborn.de>
- Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 20:01:09 GMT
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- In article <LINDA.92Sep1135545@matisse.uni-paderborn.de> linda@uni-paderborn.de (Linda Floren) writes:
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- >>>>> Regarding Re: Frequency of NFS lock problems w/ NFS mounted mail spool; karl@ddsw1.mcs.com (Karl Denninger) adds:
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- Karl> It is decidedly NOT a good idea to have more than one machine on an
- Karl> NFS-mounted mail spool writing >inbound< messages to a user's mailbox.
- Karl> The various rpc.lockd bugs will bite you if you try this, and Sun has one of
- Karl> the worst records in this area. The results are hung sendmail processes and
- Karl> mail that never gets delivered.
-
- We have a network of more than a hundred Sun4, which all mount the
- mail-directory read-write and do local mail-delivery without
- forwarding to the server ( it would most likely break down if they
- did), and we never had serious problems with this policy.
-
- We have over 350 client workstations (half Suns, half IBMs) mounting a
- single mail directory (from a Sun) read-write, and all of them forward
- mail to the server for local delivery. This machine is also used as a
- forwarding machine for mail that goes off campus. It has not broken
- down yet (but we have been seeing some high loads lately).
-
- We have definitely seen locking problems between IBM RS6000 NFS
- clients and our Sun4 NFS server. We have received patched rpc.lockd,
- and a new kernel with the NFS jumbo patch, but still we have been
- having problems with a user on an IBM NFS client typing "q" to get out
- of mail, and the process never returns. Killing and restarting
- rpc.lockd sometimes works to free up these processes that are waiting
- for locks from the server, but something only a fastboot of the server
- will fix it. It had been working fine for several months (the "q" bug
- had disappeared), so we are not sure why it has come up again now.
-
- I will say that we have doing this for several years (since 1987) with a
- network of Suns, and we never had this problem until we added IBM
- RS6000 NFS clients into the mix. It still has been a relatively
- stable mail architecture for quite a few machines.
-
- Now, however, in the face of such high loads, and the number of client
- workstations increasing, we are working on moving to a solution based
- on POP, which we hope will allow us to split the load across two or
- more server machines (you can't split one directory across two NFS
- servers easily).
-
- If you want more info, send me email.
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- Jim Ault, ITS Systems Programmer, aultj@rpi.edu <><
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