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- From: ok@goanna.cs.rmit.oz.au (Richard A. O'Keefe)
- Newsgroups: comp.lang.prolog
- Subject: Re: Homework problems
- Message-ID: <14217@goanna.cs.rmit.oz.au>
- Date: 27 Aug 92 07:20:10 GMT
- References: <meskes.713709771@ulysses> <1992Aug24.151440.24767@sics.se> <7333@skye.ed.ac.uk>
- Organization: Comp Sci, RMIT, Melbourne, Australia
- Lines: 51
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- In article <7333@skye.ed.ac.uk>, ken@aiai.ed.ac.uk (Ken Johnson) writes:
- > And thirdly, what is the difference in principle between asking the Net
- > and asking you, or a librarian, to find a solution in the literature?
- > Are you saying that if Richard OKeefe, say, publishes a solution in a
- > textbook and I read it there, that's fair and fine, but if the same
- > author mails the same solution to the same student that's cheating,
- > plagiarism and aiding and abetting? Surely you wouldn't discourage a
- > student who was experiencing difficulties from going to the library?
-
- Since my name has been brought into it:
- (1) Let me remind people of the "Ask Dr Strabismus" service I am still
- offering.
-
- (2) Let me point out that there _is_ something special about the net.
- Suppose a student at RMIT goes to RMIT's library to ask for help.
- (I wish more did.) The library and the library staff are funded
- precisely to help RMIT students; RMIT tries to make informed
- descisions about what level of funding is available and appropriate.
- But if the student asks on the net, then the cost is borne by many
- other sites who are _not_ funded to support that student, and did
- _not_ have the opportunity to decide whether they wanted to. It
- really is not a good idea to go first to the net and leave local
- resources languishing. (Leaving local resources unused is one way
- to get them cut back.)
-
- (3) Let me also point out that going to the net first deprives the student
- him/herself of an opportunity to learn something else. As it happens,
- if students in any of my courses have trouble with one of my assignments,
- and they come to see me, I spend so much time explaining things to them
- that it is hard to avoid giving the answer. In any case, they learn
- things they _wouldn't_ learn by getting the answer on a plate. (Even a
- student who looks in a book may find interesting things there s/he was
- not expecting.) There was someone recently who asked on the net about
- doing something in Quintus Prolog, when an entire section of the manual
- is devoted to that subject (it's listed in the table of contents and
- there is a tab sticking out on the right clearly labelled; you don't
- even have to _open_ the manual to find that topic). If we'd provided
- an answer on the net, instead of pointing to the manual, that enquirer
- would have missed the chance to learn to look at the table of contents
- of a manual, and would have missed the chance to find out that the job
- has already been _done_. It's the same with students; if you give them
- the answers to homework problems, that's not so bad, but you are
- depriving them of getting the explanation of _why_ that's the answer in
- terms that their lecturer will be happy to see in the final examination.
-
- And of course getting answers from the net rather than libraries has the
- same problem as copying answers from another student: the answers may be
- wrong. At least textbooks are usually reviewed and copy-edited.
-
- --
- You can lie with statistics ... but not to a statistician.
-