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- From: munk@prl.philips.nl (Harm Munk)
- Subject: Re: Is Modula-2 dead?
- Message-ID: <munk.714828002@prles6b>
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- Organization: Philips Research Laboratories Eindhoven, Netherlands
- References: <1992Aug20.134358.25702@informatik.uni-bremen.de> <714374380snx@black.demon.co.uk>
- Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 11:20:02 GMT
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- tchannon@black.demon.co.uk (Tim Channon) writes:
-
- >>Today Modula-2 to me seems to be dying: Vendors are vanishing and most of the
- >>world (i.e. the Intel-World) is using C++. And in 18 months we will have a
- >>wonderful standard, but nobody will care ("Modula-2? We are using C++").
- >>So what is the presence and the future of Modula-2? And who ist really using
- >>Modula-2 (no universities please, just the real world)?
-
- >A new shareware comms program (Deputy) for the IBM PC compatible was released
- >this month. The extant Odyessey comms program is also written largely in M2.
- >Both are very good but alas I did hear one grumble 'I won't use it because
- >it's written in Pascal-like'!!! (if it's written in C _I_ look for the weak
- >typing bugs 8-)
-
- >Ok, so the above is not the real world. Hearsay is that there are moves from
- >Ada to Modula2 by major players but nailing names is not easy. People seem
- >very guarded in their admission, me included.
-
- >If asked I tend to be guarded if someone asks what language was used to code
- >a program. With a lot of my stuff that would be answered 'Assembler and
- >Forth', perhaps leaving out mention of the latter or just saying 'running
- >under Forth'. Commercially Forth is often not acceptable, and unfortunately
- >Modula2 can suffer a little in the same way.
-
- >Prejudice!
-
- > TC.
- > E-mail: tchannon@black.demon.co.uk or tchannon@cix.compulink.co.uk
- >
-
- If people think that real programs should be written in C or C++, then let's
- stop developing native Modula 2 compilers. Instead, we should have compilers
- that compile to C or C++. If we do that, we use C (and C++ ?) for the purpose
- that it was developed for: glorified assembly ;-).
-
- And if asked in which language our products are written, we can say that the
- code is in C or C++.
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