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Newsgroups: comp.lang.c++ Path: sparky!uunet!gatech!concert!accura_nc!news From: chandra@bongoaisg.com (Periannan Chandrasekaran) Subject: C++ Product List - Version 2.03 - PART 3/5 Message-ID: <1992Aug25.212717.3180@aisg.com> Sender: news@aisg.com Reply-To: chandra@bongoaisg.com (Periannan Chandrasekaran) Organization: Accura Innovative Services Inc. Date: Tue, 25 Aug 92 21:27:17 GMT Lines: 1216 C++ Products List and Description Last Updated - August 1992 Saumen K. Dutta (skdutta@photon.tamu.edu) Permission is granted to make and distribute verbatim copies of this document provided this permission notice is preserved on all copies. Almost all the information given here is obtained through e-mail from various person at various times. Conse- quently the author or the person who provided the informa- tion does not assume any form of direct or indirect respon- sibilities for the authentication of such information. Please report any errors in this document. We will promptly correct it. 1. Introduction _ ____________ This product list gives you the information about vari- ous products developed with C++. It includes the public domain software as well as commercial software. It also illustrates the features of these products. The products considered for the documentation are C++ Compilers, C++ Class Libraries and other Commercial Products. The format of this document is nearly the same for all the products (This has been done to facilitate compari- sions). The format is given below: + Product Name: Name of the product and its latest ver- sion + Platform: Hardware / Software platform (wherever relevant). + Restrictions and Availability: Whether Freeware (The term Freeware is used for public domain and free copy- righted or copylefted(GNU) software) or Commercial (detailed license or distribution conditions should be read from the copyright conditions supplied with the product). It also gives the address from where you can get the product. + ANSI Standard: How close the product confirm to the future ISO/ANSI standard. This information is ordi- narily provided for compilers, libraries and tools. + Present Version and price: includes information abt discount (if avbl.) + Description: Features, Experience with the product etc. + Source: Generally address of the person who provided the information (see copyright notice). Most often the features claimed to be available in the product are directly taken from the information in first person. + NetComments: Experience with the product by different user. Collected mainly from the USENET or response to some query on the USENET. Based on the availability of the information some of the above fields can be blank. Please feel free to point out any mistakes/changes on the above information. Please try to submit the change in the above format. 2. Compilers _ _________ A list of all compilers is included below. Refer to individual lists for detail. 2.1. Solbourne C++ Cfront translator Version 2 & PDB _ _ _________ _ ______ __________ _______ _ ___ + Platforms: SPARC/Sun Compatibles + Commercial software Available from: Qualix Group 1900 S. Norfolk St. Suite 224 San Mateo, CA 94403 (415) 572-0200 (voice) (415) 572-1300 (fax) info@qualix.com (email) + Supports AT&T C++ release 2 + List price: $1895 for Cfront and PDB debugger. Group/university discounts available. + Solbourne C++ cfront is a full function version of the AT&T C++ Language system release 2. It translates C++ into C source code. PDB is a network-oriented symbolic debugger. Written in C++, PDB features point-and-click functions for setting breakpoints and evaluating vari- ables. In addition, PDB offers multi-window views of source code, generated assembly code, the stack and a dynamic list of variables selected by the user. PDB includes full support for C++, C and FORTRAN77. + Information provided by: Shirley Kumamoto (shirleyk@qualix.com) 2.2. Microsoft C7 compiler _ _ _________ __ ________ + Platforms: DOS and Windows ( When run in Windows it makes use of Windows virtual memory ). + Commercial software Available from: Microsoft Corporation One Microsoft Way Redmond, WA 98052-6399 Voice: 206-882-8080 Fax: 206-883-8101 Telex: 160520 + $139 upgrade price from any[?] vendor's C or C++ com- piler + Complete support in both C and C++ for each of the fol- lowing - Windows 3.1 SDK - Free copy of Qualitas [DPMI/LIM EMS] "386-Max" memory maximizer - Microsoft Foundation Classes [the "Windows for C++" API and collection classes] - OLE [Object Linking and Embedding] APIs - Pen Computing APIs in both C and C++ - Multimedia APIs - Windows Debugging Version: GDI, Kernal, and User modules - p-code compression - GUI Setup Toolkit - 75,000 lines of sample code - Zoom-In tool - Heapwalker - Dialog Editor - Image Editor - Font Editor - Hotspot Editor - Spy - Stress tester - Wdeb386 -- test and debug DLLs and Windows apps - Bitmap compiler - Help Compiler - unrestricted pre-compiled headers - explicit and/or automatic unrestricted inlining - CodeView Debugger [with general C++ expression evaluation] . dual monitor . single monitor . monitor-in-a-window - Source Profiler - On-line help and documentation for the above - Over 5,000 pages of printed bound manuals + Information provided by: jimad@microsoft.com 2.3. Lucid C++ compiler Release 2.1 _ _ _____ _ ________ _______ _ _ + Platforms: SPARC/Sun compatibles + Commercial, Binary only distribution. Shipped with a version gdb which is available via ftp. Lucid Inc, 707 Laurel St., Menlo Park, CA 94025 Tel: 415-329-8400 Fax: 415-329-8480 email: lucid-info@lucid.com + Dual mode. -Xf for cfront compatibility. -XF for track- ing X3J16. No templates. No exception handling. + Single unit $1500 for commercial customers. Educational and volume discounts available. + Not a cfront port Significant Optimization + Information provided by: Jerry Schwarz (jss@lucid.com) 2.4. GNU CC (gcc) compiler Ver. 2.2.2 _ _ ___ __ ___ ________ ___ _ _ _ 2.4.1. GCC on UNIX _ _ _ ___ __ ____ + Platforms: Many platforms (native and cross) here is a list of some of them - Vaxes running BSD/ VMS or System V. - Intel 386 PCs running system V. - Sequent with Intel 386 processors. - Sun-2, Sun-3, Sun-4, Sparc, Sun-386. - Alliant FX/8 computer. Currently, there are bugs in the support for floating point. Also note that Alliant's version of dbx does not manage to work with the output from GNU CC. - Convex c1 and C2 computers - HP 9000 series - ISI 68000 or 68020 system. - Sony NEWS 68020 system. - NeXT system. - AT&T 3b1, a.k.a. 7300 PC. - Sequent containing ns32000 processors. - Encore ns32000 system. - National Semiconductor ns32000 system. - Motorola 88000 processor. + Available in Freeware. Can be ftp'ed from prep.mit.ai.edu from the directory /pub/gnu. Free Software Foundation 675 Mass. Ave. Cambridge, MA 02139 USA Tel: (617) 876-3296 Email: fsf@prep.ai.mit.edu Commercial support (and enhancements) available from: Cygnus Support 814 University Avenue Palo Alto, CA 94301 Tel: +1 415 322 3811 Fax: +1 415 322 3270 email: info@cygnus.com Single unit $1500 for 1 year technical support. Educa- tional and volume discounts available. Cygnus Support is the official maintainer of GNU C++ for the Free Software Foundation. 1. In accordance with FSF CopyLeft, you are not allowed to upload this program to a distribution site unless that site also makes the FSF sources for these programs available. Please read the file COPYING for more details. FSF sources are available on prep.ai.mit.edu, and on either grape.ecs.clarkson.edu or sun.soe.clarkson.edu 2. If your application links in object modules that were written by FSF, your application counts as a "derived work" and must obey the provisions of the FSF Copyrights. See the file COPYING for details. Specifically, the C++ classes in libc.a and obstacks are FSF works that are covered by the GNU GPL. The mere act of compiling does not affect the copyright status of your program. + Closely follows the ANSI Standard. Templates imple- mented (though with some bugs), Exceptions not imple- mented according to the ANSI standard but is pretty okay! + Gcc 2.1 combines C, C++ and Objective C compiler in one executable. Lots of technical support is available from the USENET. Bugs and their fixes are normally reported in these groups. Some of the groups are gnu.g++.bugs, gnu.g++.announce, gnu.gcc.announce etc. GNU C++ works with GDB version 4.5 to provide C++ source-level debug- ging. + Information provided by tiemann@cygnus.com 2.4.2. GCC on DOS (djgpp) _ _ _ ___ __ ___ _____ + Platform: 80386-based IBM compatible PC or PS/2, approximately 4-5Mb of hard drive space, and 512K RAM. + Available in Freeware may be ftp'ed from: host: grape.ecs.clarkson.edu login: ftp password: send your e-mail address directory: ftp/pub/msdos/djgpp As a convenience to non-FTP users, djgpp is also stored on Clarkson's archive server, sun.soe.clarkson.edu. To access the archive server, do this: mail archive-server@sun.soe.clarkson.edu Subject: <none> help index msdos/djgpp ^D For other copyright ( or copyleft ) instructions please see the previous subsection. + This package contains a 32-bit 80386 DOS extender with symbolic debugger, a C/C++ compiler with utilities, development libraries, and source code. It generates full 32-bit programs and supports full virtual memory with paging to disk. Supported Wares: - Up to 128M of extended memory (expanded under VCPI) - Up to 128M of disk space used for swapping - SuperVGA 256-color mode up to 1024x768 - 80387 - XMS & VDISK memory allocation strategies - VCPI programs, such as QEMM and 386MAX Unsupported: - DPMI programs, such as Windows 3.0 - Multiprocessing (fork()) + Information provided by praetzel@sunee.waterloo.edu 2.4.3. NetComments _ _ _ ___________ From: Eric (praetzel@tesla.waterloo.edu) Re: The DOS port of GCC (called djgcc). Basically its great. It is the only (free or reasonably priced) C/C++ compiler that allows you to access upto 128meg easily. The optimization and code generated is much better than Borland and the 386 code runs upto 30% faster for simple math. - There is a group on usenet for problems, announcements (name = ???) - I believe that the graphics is done with late linking (I have not gotten it to work yet) which is a bit of a pain for the S/W I have been writing (it trys to detect what the video HW is from a variety of 16 mfg's). - It does not have an extensive debugger/profiler like Borland but I am sure that it may already be done or on its way. - Being able to access that much memory (and it will swap to disk so you don't have to worry about that either) and all of the proven GCC optimizing etc make it very useful for anyone who need access to > 640k (like when I was doing a lot of matrix work a while ago). I hope this helps. - Eric From: Kai Henningsen(Kai_Henningsen@ms.maus.de) Re: Why some PC C compilers ar..... kr> Von : kjb@cgl.rmit.oz.au (Fr, 15.05.92 03:30) kr> Name: Kendall Bennett kr> Box : RMIT Computer Centre, Melbourne Australia. kr> MId : <kjb.705897037@godzilla.cgl.citri.edu.au> kr> RId : <92-05-062@gnusenet.comp.compilers> kr> thing I did when I first installed DJGPP for my kr> PC (running under DOS naturally) was to run tests kr> on this program. It took about twice as long or more kr> to compile under DJGPP, and the resulting program ran kr> horrendously slow. I set up file approx. 1Mb in size, kr> to be translated, and the times were... kr> BC++: 9.2 seconds kr> DJGPP: > 40 seconds I'm not astonished. Did you look at how DJGPP does I/O? No? Don't look there, you might get nightmares! :-) What it does is, first, everything goes through the DJ/GNU/ BSD-Libraries; then, when it arrives at the actual read()/ write(), it calls an interrupt which is intercepted by the driver. The driver, in turn, calls Borland's read()/write() routines, which may even do a (very slow) cr/lf<->lf translation. No wonder it's slow. By the way, last I checked, the same handling is what broke timezone handling for DJGPP: because it's broken in Borland's Turbo C. In both cases, double libs make the problem much worse. MfG Kai 2.5. AT&T C++ C-front Translator Ver. 3.0 _ _ __ _ _ _ _____ __________ ___ _ _ + Platforms: UNIX + Commercial. + Commercial Software UNIX System Laboratories Europe Ltd. International House Ealing Broadway London W5 5DB England telephone: +44-(0)81-567 7711 facsimile: +44-(0)81-567 2420 US phone: 1-800-828-UNIX + Compatable with the proposed ANSI standard. Exceptions not implemented as ANSI proposal. + Price - unknown. 2.6. Zortech C++ Version 2.1 _ _ _______ _ _______ _ _ + Platforms: Dos, OS/2, Unix 386 and MachIntosh + Commercial software available from: Zortech Inc. 4-C Gill street Woburn MA 01801 USA Tel: (617) 646-6703 Fax: (617) 643-7969 in EUROPE: Zortech ltd 106-108 Powis Street London SE18 6LU Tel: 44+ 81-316-7777 Fax: 44+ 81-316-4138 + From $199.95 to $450 + This is a native compiler and is shipped with a source level debugger, a set of classes and a lot of tools (class browser, Extended memory manager, etc...). + Taken from the previous C++ product list (last update April 1991) 2.6.1. NetComments _ _ _ ___________ From: LANG@129.69.123.1 (MARTIN LANG) in comp.lang.c++ Message-ID: <1992Apr29.111100.2400@news.uni-stuttgart.de> Obviosly some users of the Zortech compiler for SCO do not agree with me. I want to add some comments now. 1. I agree that the release 2.1 of the compiler has some unpleasant "features",e.g. stopping with internal errors, only the old stream library is availble, and some incompatibilities with the language standard. A few weeks ago, I tested the beta version of the release 3.0. It seems that this release corresponds to the DOS compiler 3.04. Most of the problems of the old 2.1 release have been removed. I don't know when the new compiler will be available, but I think it will be in the near future. (that's only my personal opinion.) Sorry, when I said that I am very confident with the Zortech compiler I had the release 3.0 in mind and not the old 2.1. 2. I agree that there is a great need for a debugger, since using Codeview is very inconvenient. I don't know if Zortech will ship the debugger with the new release, but there is one way how programs can be debugged anyhow. It is the way I go and it worked fine even for large projects. The programs are developed and debugged under DOS using the Zortech tools. Finally they only have to be recompiled under SCO. Of course that's not the bestsolution, but I like the Zortech compilers because they are native compilers and the are very fast. 3. I have discussed with many people from Symantec and all of them said, that all compilers will be supported (DOS, MAC, SCO). 2.7. SCO/C++ 3.0 _ _ ___ _ _ _ + On 386 boxes (SCO Unix) + Commercial product from SCO Canada, Inc. (formerly HCR Corporation) 130 Bloor Street West, 10th floor Toronto, Ontario Canada M5S 1N5 Tel: (416) 922-1937 Fax: (416) 922-8397 + Price unknown + SCO's port of cfront 2.1 shipped with a source level debugger (dbXtra) with windowing features and a Motif interface. Also shipped with InterViews and NIHCL (see Libraries). On 386 boxes (SCO Unix). + Taken from the previous C++ product list (last update April 1991) 2.8. Comeau C++ 3.0 With Templates _ _ ______ _ _ _ ____ _________ + Platforms: *All* UNIX 386/486 SVR3/SVR4, MS-DOS, Amiga- DOS, SPARC, RS/6000 (2.1 versions available for XENIX 386, AT&T UNIX PC, AT&T 3B2, Sun-3, Data General AOS/VS). + Commercial software Comeau Computing 91-34 120th street Richmond Hill, NY 11418 Tel: (718) 945-0009 Email: attmail!csanta!c++ BIX: comeau + $250 and up depending upon platform + Information provided by Greg Comeau (comeau@csanta.attmail.com) 2.9. SPARCompiler C++ and SPARCworks _ _ ____________ _ ___ __________ + SPARCsystem or compatable also Solaris operating system + Commercial product Sun MicroSystems Inc. 2550 Garcia Avenue Mountain View, CA 94043 Tel: (415) 960-1300 + Following are the Prices: 1. SPARCompiler C++ 3.0 - $995/user (includes media, on-line docs and hardcopy docs) - $895/user (includes media and on-line docs) 2. SPARCworks Professional C++ 3.0 - $1,995/user (includes media, on-line docs and hardcopy docs) - $1,795/user (includes media and on-line docs) + Description: 1. SPARCompiler C++ Cfront-based C++ compiler. Full-featured, high- performance C++ compiler with templates. Compliant with the C++ defacto standard, Cfront 3.0. Includes C++ class libraries, extensive online documentation, and support for interlanguage cal- ling. Optimized to take advantage of the SPARCsys- tem architecture. 2. SPARCworks Professional C++ Includes SPARCompiler C++, plus a rich graphical development environment including a full C++ debugger, class browser, class grapher, function call grapher for viewing program structure, a per- formance analyzer for improving application per- formance, a file merge facility, and a tool for easing makefile intepretation and execution. + Source: Kim Polese, SPARCompiler C++ Product Manager, SunPro. email address: polese@sun.com 2.10. ObjectCenter, a C++ programming environment _ __ ____________ _ _ ___________ ___________ + Currently runs on - Sparc machines running SunOS 4.1 - DECstations running Ultrix 4.2 + Commercial software from: CenterLine Software Inc. [formerly Saber Software] 10 Fawcett Street Cambridge, MA 02138 USA Phone: +1 617 498-3000 FAX: +1 617 868-6655 email: centerline@centerline.com + Currently at the cfront 2.1 level. + Current version is 1.1. I am not sure what the price and discounts are; I'm pretty sure there are educa- tional discounts. + Information provided by kendall@centerline.com 2.10.1. NetComments _ __ _ ___________ ------------------- I've only got experience with Object Center ... In general it's a very good debugging tool, it will flag any references to uninitialized variables and any array bounds violations as soon as they are accessed, pretty nifty. The only drawback is the long delay while your source is loaded in and "linked". This can be a real pain if you're using a lot of libraries (such as NIH), because you'll have to perform some rather unatural acts to balance source availability versus load/ link time. ------------------- ObjectCenter is an excellent tool. We use it all the time. You won't go wrong spending your money on it. I know less about the other tools. But most reviews I've seen recommend OC over the others.. ------------------- We bought ObjectCenter, for the same reason you did; we played around with it, and it worked. The problem is, under real life situations, it is ssssllloowwww. Using a Sparc2 with 32MB and loading object-only, our project would take, literally, hours to load. And it just wasn't that big, a few tens of thousands of source lines. This was release or so ago, so maybe the thing is faster now. ------------------- I am using OjectCenter and like it a lot. I haven't used Objectworks but based on the literature it looks like it has comparable features. The one thing ObjectCenter has that I have not seen in other products is the command line C/C++ interpreter. This is really nice. The run-time error checking is valuable also. It would be nice if it had an OpenLook or Motif interface and worked better with emacs. I understand these improvements will be made (you guessed it) in the next release. ------------------- ObjectCenter is a dog; my test application is about 65,000 lines of C++ and C code. On a Sun Sparcstation with 28 Meg of RAM and 80 Meg of VM page space, I was unable to load all the source code for my application. It would run out of VM after 5 - 8 hours no matter what I did. Their technical people tell me that I need 120-150 Meg of VM, and that some of their customers use up to 500 Meg!! ------------------- Here we use ObjectCenter. Its main advantage over other products is that it is an interpreter, so it can detect certain run-time errors having to do with memory corruption that cause segvs and can take days of debugging and hair-pulling to find otherwise. It is also nice that it is an environment so you can fool around with objects of a single class, without compiling and linking a whole system. Its main disadvantages are that it is an interpreter and hence SLOW. I usually get around this by only loading in a few source code files, and the rest of my process in compiled form. The compiled code executes about as fast as under dbx, and I can debug the code I am interested in. Also, you need a hekuva lot of RAM. Our workstations have 40MB, but we have about 100K lines of source code. But even for small processes, you need a lot. The browsing tools are helpful, but not as good as what you get with Objectworks or Lucid. ------------------ There are people around here who won't use ObjectCenter because they think it is to slow to load. The key is knowing that you can only load a few files in source and the rest in object (with the -G flag preferably). Then you can get reasonable load times. Otherwise, it's a nightmare. Not to mention that after a while, it often just "stops working". Nothing more can be done. You have to start again and reload everything. So if you are not smart about what you load, you are looking at two-hour load times. 2.11. EDG C++ Front End (compiler front end) _ __ ___ _ _____ ___ ________ _____ ___ + Commercial software from: Edison Design Group 4 Norman Road Upper Montclair, NJ 07043 (201) 744-2620 jsa@edg.com or uunet!edg1!jsa + Matches the ARM, not including templates and exceptions (i.e., essentially the same language as cfront 2.1) + Pricing depends on the type of sublicensing rights required. Typical pricing is a one-time fee in the tens of thousands to $100,000+ range (and no per-copy royalties), but we also consider royalty-based licenses with low up-front costs. + The EDG C++ Front End is aimed at compiler developers who wish to add C++ support to an existing compiler suite (or one being developed), and at software tool developers. The Front End translates C++ into a high- level tree-structured intermediate form. It does full error checking and has excellent error recovery. It supports the C++ language as defined by the Annotated C++ Reference Manual; ANSI C and K&R C are also sup- ported. Host and target computer characteristics are configurable, allowing use in a variety of environments and as a cross-compiler. Licensing is in source form, with complete internal documentation. It's a portable product. Most of our sales have been to companies using UNIX or derivatives, but we have ported our C front end to MS-DOS, and could do the same for C++. However, there are no MS-DOS-specific features such as "near" and "far" pointers. Bear in mind that we are in the business of selling to systems and software companies that combine our front ends with code generators of their own and sell the resulting product under their name. We don't sell full compilers, and in general we are not trying to sell to end-users. + Information provided by J. Stephen Adamczyk(uunet.uu.net!edg1!jsa) 2.12. Borland C++ _ __ _______ _ + Available on DOS and Windows + Commercial software from: Borland International 1800 Green Hills Rd Scotts Valley, CA 95067 Customer Service and Technical Support can be reached be calling 408-438-5300. Our general number or opera- tor number is 408-438-8400 For purchase contact 408- 439-9103. + No information on the compatablity with Future ANSI/ISO standard + Borland C++ & Application Frameworks 3.0 now includes the runtime library source code which is normally sold separately for $150. Borland C++ & Application Frame- works 3.0 has a suggested retail price of $749. Student and Educational discounts available. + The following features are included: - Global optimization to create code that is faster or smaller - Full implementation of both ANSI C and C++ 2.1 with templates - Windows and DOS hosted Integrated Development Environments - Greatly increased compiler speed for C++ and re- architected to compile the largest C++ programs - DOS Protected Mode Interface (DPMI) hosted com- piler and IDE - ObjectBrowser to visually display relationships between code objects and to help you navigate through your code. - Resource Workshop that lets you "draw" Windows resources such as menus, icons, dialogs, etc. - EasyWin library that lets you convert DOS applica- tions to Windows just by recompiling - Pre-compiled Headers that dramatically decrease recompilation time. - No Microsoft Windows Software Development Kit required. - Borland C++ comes with a complete set of tools for creating DOS and Windows applications. It includes: . Turbo Debugger with debugging support for optimized code . Turbo Profiler now with Windows support and coverage analysis . Object Oriented Turbo Assembler + Information provided by Howard Kanter, Borland Customer Support (76701.251@compuserve.com) 2.13. Turbo C++ _ __ _____ _ + Available on DOS and Windows + Commercial software from: Borland International 1800 Green Hills Rd Scotts Valley, CA 95067 Customer Service and Technical Support can be reached be calling 408-438-5300. Our general number or opera- tor number is 408-438-8400 For purchase contact 408- 439-9103. + No information on the compatablity with Future ANSI/ISO standard + $149.95 + $10 S/H. Upgrade from Turbo C or Turbo C++ costs 89.95 + $10 S/H + Information provided by Howard Kanter, Borland Customer Support (76701.251@compuserve.com) 2.13.1. NetComments _ __ _ ___________ From: meyer@sun.soe.clarkson.edu (Robert Meyer) Newsgroups: comp.lang.c,comp.lang.c++ Message-ID: <MEYER.92May15143544@sun.clarkson.edu> We have used the Borland products, Turbo C and Turbo Pascal for several years in our educational programs. I recently purchased the latest version (ver 3.0) of Turbo C++ and was astonished to discover that it will not run (in any configuration - both tcc and the IDE environment) without 1 MB of extended memory. This is absurd. How can Borland abandon the many users of simple, basic machines who made Turbo C popular in the first place? According to the Borland 800 number for ordering products, they have no C language product which runs in less than 1 MB of extended memory! They will not sell the previous versions which would run in 512K or 640K. So, why am I posting this - (not just to complain) 1. If others (especially at Universities which use Turbo C for student programs on "student" PCs) are as upset as I am, perhaps we can convince Borland to reconsider their marketing strategy and produce a product useful to students. While we are at it, it would be nice if the product didn't consume half the hard disk space. 2. Is there another product which competes with the older versions of Turbo C or Turbo C++? I consider the IDE environment to be very helpful for new students learning C initially. And since this is, in part, a complaint, I will also note that Turbo C++ is being sold WITHOUT the library functions reference manual. I consider that unrealistic. If the manual costs an extra $x to provide, then include it and raise the price. What good is C without documentation of the library functions. 2.14. LIANT LPI-C++ 1.0.8 _ __ _____ ___ _ _ _ _ + Platforms: Sun SPARC, SunSoft Interactive Unix V.4 and V.3 for 386/486, SCO Unix 386/486 + Commercial software available from: Liant Software Corperation 959 Concord Street Framingham, MA 01701 USA Tel: +1 (508) 872-8700 Fax: +1 (508) 626-2221 email: support@lpi.liant.com In United Kingdom: Liant Software Ltd. 2 Caxton Street St. James Park London, SW1H 0EQ Tel: +44-(0)71-799-2434 Fax: +44-(0)71-799-2552 In Germany: Oakland Group GmbH Alt-Moabit 91 B W-1000 Berlin 21 Phone: +49 (0)30-391-5045 Fax: +49 (0)30-393-4398 + ANSI Standard: Full support except for templates and exception handling. + $1,295, 30-day money-back guarantee + Description: - Compiles direct to native 32-bit code - CodeWatch debugger v 5.1.7 included, window-based, supports all C++ expressions - Alternatively compiles ARM C++, cfront C++, stan- dard C, or K&R C - Explicit and/or automatic unrestricted inlining, as part of global optimization - Full documentation including iostream library + Information provided by Prescott K. Turner, Jr. (pkt@lpi.liant.com) 2.15. Objectworks\C++ 2.4a _ __ _____________ _ __ + Platforms: SUN + Commercial software from: ParcPlace Systems, Inc. 999 E. Arques Ave. Sunnyvale, CA 94086 Tel: (408)481-9090 Sales: 1-800-759-7272 email: info@parcplace.com + Based on, and includes cfront 2.1 and host platform cc and ld. + Price - US$1,995 single quantity, USA and Canada. Volume discounts, site licensing and educational discounts available. Technical support priced separately. + C++ source-level debugger, class browsers that show inheritance, caller-callee, file-structure relation- ships, integration with emacs/vi and makefiles. + Information provided by Mike Khaw (khaw@parcplace.com) 2.15.1. NetComments _ __ _ ___________ ------------------- I use Objectworks\C++ occasionally. It has a nice class and function hierarchy browser, and a nice debugger. I used Saber C++ some time ago, so my recollection on it isn't up to date. They do have far better run time checks, and that can be very valuable in producing high quality code. The ObjectCenter folks also have sent me some material on an experimental facility they may or may not support for checking for memory leaks, a critical item again in production software. If this works, it could represent a substantial savings over buying Purify's memory leak product (which is a very high quality product). I'm not overly impressed with the Objectworks environment, but the (few) tools it has work nicely. ------------------- I have used Objectworks extensively over the past 8-9 months. I was introduced to both Objectworks and Saber-C++ (now known as ObjectCenter) simultaneously. At the time, Objectworks was a clear preference. I had an opportunity to take a look at ObjectCenter about 1 month ago. I was still not overly impressed with it (compared to Objectworks). My chief complaint has to do with the debugger interface. ObjectCenter's debugger seems to be little more than a thin wrapper around a dbx-like command line debugger. Whereas, Objectworks has a very intuitive point-and- click style debugger environment. On the other hand, Objectworks does not yet support templates (due in the next major release). Objectworks also does not cooperate fully with whatever window manager you are using. It creates one large window, which covers the whole screen and creates it's own sub-windows by tiling within the primary window. This, of course, is a result of it having been written in Smalltalk. Supposedly, their next release will support separately managed windows under X. On the whole, I found Objectworks more intuitive to use. ------------------- 2.16. Oregon C++, version 2.1 _ __ ______ _ _______ _ _ + Platforms: SPARC, DECstation, VAX/VMS, HP 9000/300, Sun-3, 386/486 running under Unix System V 3.2 or 4.0 + Commercial Software available from: TauMetric Corporation Customer Sales and Support 8765 Fletcher Parkway La Mesa, CA 91942 Tel: 619-697-7674 Fax: 619-697-1140 email: support@taumet.com + Version 2.1 of the Oregon C++ compiler conforms with version 2.1 of the C++ language as specified by the Annotated C++ Reference Manual by Ellis and Stroustrup. + Prices range from $ 1700.00 up, depending on platform. Individual listings with support are given below: 1. Oregon C++, version 2.1 for SPARC w/ ODB, Price: $1800, Support: $450 2. Oregon C++, version 2.1 for DECstation w/ ODB, Price: $ 1800.00, Support: $ 450.00 3. Oregon C++, version 2.1 for VAX/VMS w/ODB, Price: $ 1700.00+, Support: $ 425.00+ 4. Oregon C++, version 2.0 for HP 9000/300 & Sun-3, Price: $1700, Support: $425.00+ 5. Oregon C++, version 2.0 for 386/486 w/ODB, Price: $ 1700.00, Support: $425 + Description of the Compiler: - TauMetric Corporation now develops, maintains, and sells the Oregon C++ compiler and debugger. - The Oregon C++ compiler is a true compiler, it compiles C++ code to object code. It features three switches to allow the user to compile C++, ANSI C, or K&R style C programs. A source level debugger is included with each compiler. The debugger is specifically written for C++, it understand multiple inheritence and classes. + Information provided by: support@taumet.com 2.17. IBM AIX XL C++ Compiler/6000 V1 _ __ ___ ___ __ _ ________ ____ __ + Platforms: Hardware: RISC System/6000, Software: AIX 3.2 + Commercial software : Address Unknown + ANSI Standard: Full implementation of the C++ language, Supports Templates and Exception Handling. + From $875 + Description of the product: - Native optimizing compiler - C++ graphical browser - Class libraries: I/O stream, Complex, Task - Test coverage analyzer - Name demangler - Sample class libraries: InterViews 3.0 and NIH 3.0 - Debugger support: works with AIX 3.2.1 dbx - Tool support: AIX 3.2.1 tools with C++ support - cflow, cxref, gprof, lex, lint, make, nm, prof, and yacc. + Information obtained from John Ferreira (FERREIRA@torolab6.vnet.ibm.com) 2.18. JPI Compiler from Jensen nad Partners Int. _ __ ___ ________ ____ ______ ___ ________ ___ + Platforms: DOS and OS/2 + Commercial software available from: Jensen and Partners International 1101 San Antontio Road, Suite 301 Mountain View CA 94043 Phone: (415) 967-3200 Fax: (415) 967-3288 + No pricing information provided + It will crosscompile output for DOS, Windows or OS/2. Their compiler converts code to a language independent internal form, which is then passed through an optim- izer. (The langauge independt part supports their C, C++, Pascal and Modula-2 compilers. It includes a source code debugger that can convert the information to a form acceptable to CodeView.) Their is an advanced version that includes an assembler, disassembler, pro- filer, resource compiler and a couple of other utili- ties. It's relatively easy to port code from Borland, Microsoft, or Zortech -- most of their DOS specific libraries come in several forms to support the dif- ferent naming conventions of their competitors, and they windowing libraries that emulate those from Boralnd or Zortech. The optimizer is quite good; it generates fast, compact code by making extensive use of registers to pass parameters. They include support for multithreaded pro- gramming and DLLs in all three of their target environ- ments. One particularly nice feature is that the IDE is com- pletely configurable. You can change how the editor operates; you can change everything about what's on the menus and how they're layed out; you can add your own hypertext help information to the IDE. They also use a project system that is very different from UNIX style makes, or from Borland's system. After you get used to it, is much easier to use; it feels like you're pro- gramming the compilation process process. It is also easy to produce LIB files or DLL files (something I could never do comfortably inside Borland's IDE, which insists that the only legitimate target of a project is an EXE file.) One of the features they advertise is a smart linker and smart method linker, that can supposedly avoid linking in code that is unused (including unused vir- tual methods). I've had trouble getting this to work in a completely reliable manner, but the code it generates without the smart linker is still pretty lean. + Information provided by: Kevin Coombes <krc@math.umd.edu>