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- From: tomw@ccadfa.cc.adfa.oz.au (Tom Worthington)
- Subject: Re: DEC HAS APPLIED FOR "DEC ADA" AS A TRADEMARK IN AUSTRALIA
- Message-ID: <1992Sep3.071030.17127@sserve.cc.adfa.oz.au>
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- Organization: Australian Defence Force Academy, Canberra, Australia
- References: <17i1q3INN9na@ccadfa.cc.adfa.oz.au> <1992Aug31.131014.8114@PA.dec.com>
- Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 07:10:30 GMT
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-
- This expands on my message last Thursday expressing concern
- Digital Equipment Corporation have applied for the term "DEC
- ADA" to be registered in Australia as a trademark (Trademark
- Number: 550642). The application has been accepted and the
- public has until 9 October 1992 to register any objection to
- this.
-
- I said in the previous message that I had some concerns that
- such a trademark will weaken the strong standardisation which
- currently exists with Ada compilers.
-
- The inside cover page of the Ada standard which US DoD sent me
- in 1983 states, in part:
-
- 'In all contexts, use of the term "Ada" should indicate
- conformance to the standard.'
-
- 'Describing, advertising, or promoting a language processor as
- an "Ada" processor is equivalent to making a voluntary
- statement of conformance to ANSI/MIL-STD-1815A.'
-
- 'The term Ada may be used in describing language processors
- which are not completely conforming or are not making a claim
- of conformance provided that there is a precise, easily visile
- statement of their non-conformance of the same time and in the
- same context.'
- -----------------
-
- The US DoD backed up this policy with enforcement by making
- "Ada" a trademark in the US. I do not know if it was ever a
- trademark in other countries, or if US protection applied.
- However the industry has accepted the policy as if it was.
- Therefore customers who see the term "Ada" used to describe
- products will understand this to mean "a statement of
- conformance to the Ada standard".
-
- If a product trademark includes "Ada" or "ADA" and is owned by
- the vendor, I am concerned that the moral and legal pressure
- on the vendor to supply "real" Ada will be lessened. It could
- be assumed that a vendor will only wish to use the term "Ada"
- due to its association with the Ada standard. In effect the
- vendor will be obtain ownership of this term, with its
- standards implications, for free.
-
- The effort to ensure that the term "Ada" is only used by
- conforming products has been made by the IT community world
- wide. It is not the case that US DoD or any company or
- individual made this effort on their own. US DoD encouraged
- the Ada standard to be used by the IT community. The IT
- community responded by, to a large extent, self regulating to
- prevent the misuse of the term "Ada".
-
- Keith J. Anderson of DEC said (with the disclaimer he is not
- speaking on behalf of DEC) on the Internet (Newsgroup:
- comp.lang.ada, Message-ID: 1992Aug31.131014.8114@PA.dec.com)
- the AJPO replaced the Ada trademark with a "certification
- mark" of "Validated Ada". I do not know if this form of
- protection applies outside the US. Also this policy change is
- not well known. It may be necessary to retain some form of
- control on the term "Ada" if the certification mark for
- "Validated Ada" is not available in Australia.
-
- An appropriate course of action may be for vendors to agree to
- not attempt to trademark terms including "Ada" or "Validated
- Ada" and to ask the trademark office to not accept any such
- trademark applications. Alternatively some industry body may
- apply for rights to these terms, in the absence of an
- application by AJPO.
-
- It should be remembered that Ada is now being used for
- systems, which if they do not operate correctly, can place at
- risk public safety. This could include the control and safety
- systems for weapons of mass destruction, conventional weapons,
- military and civil aircraft, chemical and nuclear plants.
-
- The highest standards are used for the development of software
- for these systems. It is unlikely that a software package with
- the word "Ada" on the box would be simply purchased and used
- in these systems. Extensive checks would be applied to any such
- product. However the software engineering culture which has
- been built up with the development of Ada standard can be
- weakened by any ambiguity as to the definition of the Ada
- standard.
-
-
-
-
- Tom Worthington
- Chairman
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- 3 September
- 1992
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