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- Subject: (Fwd: *C&CD*) Comments on good and great papers (4)
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- Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 12:13:44 -0700 (PDT)
- From: Gardner Campbell <Campbell@usdcsv.acusd.edu>
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- Subject: Comments on good and great papers (4)
- Reply-to: Computers & Composition Digest (R. Royar) <R0MILL01@ULKYVX.BITNET>
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- My I interject a word on behalf of the students who are good, even very
- good writers trying to get better? Several posts have suggested these
- students don't *really* need our comments: "they'd learn anyway" seems
- to be the argument. (And the bad writers don't care and thus ignore
- our comments--education is impossible q.e.d. But enough of that for now.)
- I disagree. Saying that the best students don't need us and will learn
- on their own because they are good students represents the kind of logic
- that made my own experience as a good student in the public school system
- so miserable and (largely, but not always) a waste of time. One of the things
- I *loved* about college was that the quality of commentary on my papers
- took a quantum leap upward. My best teachers were an attentive and intelligent
- audience I had never found before. And their commentary taught me most
- of what I know as a writer.
-
- I imagine most of you on this list were good writers in college. Didn't you
- value what your teachers had to say about your papers? Didn't you *need*
- the direction and advice and support that commentary offered, the attentive-
- ness it demonstrated? Don't you think *our* good students do too?
-
- "Elitist" is a good handful of mud to sling. Stoop and pick it up if you
- want. But any system that ignores the needs of those who do well, or denies
- that those needs exist, ends up serving (perhaps even encouraging) a very
- homogeneous population of the uncommitted, the unmotivated, and often the
- actively anti-intellectual.
-
- *All* our students have needs, many of them very pressing needs, and those
- needs are NOT limited to any one type or category of student. Very often I
- deliberately ratchet *up* my standards and critical discourse on my best
- papers as a way of encouraging *every* student to do the very best work she or
- he is capable of.
-
- Can you tell this issue touches me on the raw?
-
- Exit, pursued by a bear.
-
- Gardner Campbell
- Campbell@acusd.bitnet
- Campbell@usdcsv.acusd.bitnet
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