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- From: schuette@wl.com (Wade Schuette)
- Subject: Re: scientists as programmers (was: Small Language Wanted)
- Message-ID: <1992Aug26.102735.12519@wl.com>
- Organization: Warner Lambert / Parke-Davis
- References: <1992Aug25.034553.2990@linus.mitre.org> <1992Aug25.154501.8654@colorado.edu> <1992Aug25.202307.12365@newshost.lanl.gov>
- Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 10:27:35 GMT
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- In article <1992Aug25.202307.12365@newshost.lanl.gov> jlg@cochiti.lanl.gov (Jim Giles) writes:
- >In article <1992Aug25.154501.8654@colorado.edu>, ejh@khonshu.colorado.edu (Edward J. Hartnett) writes:
- >|> [...] No offense to scientists, but I have rarely if ever seen a
- >|> scientist who was a good programmer. [...]
- >
- >You must encounter a different set of scientists than I do. Most of
- >...[stuff deleted]
- >Now, it's true that most scientists are not code-developers at all and
- >don't know anything about it (this is changing). However, the fact that
- >people who never do code development are bad programmers doesn't seem
- >relevant.
-
-
- OK, so having gone back and forth, maybe we have a sense now that there
- are scientists who write good code and scientists who don't, perhaps in
- a different ratio than people who spend more time focusing on programming
- issues.
-
- Can we focus some attention on what CAN and SHOULD be taught to the
- scientists who would prefer to write good code and are reasonably bright
- but extremely busy. On a very practical, very pragmatic basis.
- Suppose you can get 45 minutes of time, and hold a seminar on What every
- scientist should know about computing but probably doesnn't... or some such.
-
- One shot. The room is impatient. The top people are late. (the projector
- doesn't focus.) Now what? This is a serious question, as I'd like to do
- precisely this, for an audience of primarily biological / chemical
- researchers. Software Engineering 101, extremely applied, for people
- heavily into Fortran and "getting results today."
-
- Or maybe, this: if you had ONE thing you could try to get across, that would
- make sense to that audience in that time frame, what would it be?
-
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- R. Wade Schuette schuette@wl.com Ann Arbor, MI, USA
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