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- From: ronl@pdact.pd.necisa.oz.au (Ron Lees)
- Newsgroups: comp.databases.informix
- Subject: Re: Informix vs. Oracle
- Message-ID: <9438@emory.mathcs.emory.edu>
- Date: 1 Sep 92 13:48:04 GMT
- Sender: walt@mathcs.emory.edu
- Reply-To: ronl@pdact.pd.necisa.oz.au (Ron Lees)
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- donb@pdx.csd.mot.com (Don Bolton) writes:
-
- } Their forms package does NOT communicate to their report writing package
- } Their "procedural" SQL cannot be used for OUTPUT, only program variables
- } or TABLE data.
- }
- } Outwardly, that "simple, ez to use, etc" forms package looks *slick*
- } now try a *real* task with it and spend a lifetime debugging your
- } triggers. And oh yeah you'll need a *seperate* set of screens to
- } drive those reports.
- }
- } Orifice controls a lot of things for the developer transparently which
- } seems neat until you realize what its doing is absolutely bass-ack-
- } wards to what you need to do. (conditional depending..)
- }
- } Orifice *does* have a *superb* set of extensions to their SQL
- } implementation, a lot of reporting can be run from straight sql
- } scripts, but if you need something procedural in nature your
- } hosed without doing a bunch of temp tables first and then doing
- } reporting.
- }
- }Informix, to the Oracle bigot, seems crude, but in reality is a far easier
- }environment in which to get *real* tasks done, can be written to do nearly
- }anything concievable (4gl) by anyone who has ever used any kind of a
- }programming
- }language. Thats not to say one couldn't do a lot in Orifice too, but,,,, its
- }sold as an environment requiring *less* technical people and in reality thats
- }just not true.
- }
-
- My experience of the forms package confirms what Don says. Although
- development by form is novel to start with, for a large project it rapidly
- becomes very tedious and slow. Especially if you want to make small
- changes.
-
- }These opinions are mine although I have found them to be shared by many deve-
- }lopers who have worked with both products. They do not nessicarily represent
- }the opinions of my company.
- }
-
- Having worked with both Oracle and Informix also, I agree with Don's
- sentiments. However, I have to admit I haven't used Oracle for a couple
- of years, having switched to Informix with my current employer.
-
- }UNLESS Oracle has changed DRASTICLY in the past 6 months, its an overcomplex
- }menagerie of dis-associated products..
- }
-
- This may be the sticking point. My understanding is that with the release
- of V7.0, Oracle HAS changed drasticly and that reviewers in the literature
- who were previously anti-Oracle are now raving about it.
-
- Any Oracle 7.0 users like to comment on this?
-
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