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- From: randall@informix.com (Randall Rhea)
- Newsgroups: comp.databases,comp.databases.informix
- Subject: Re: Informix vs. Oracle
- Keywords: informix oracle database rdbms
- Message-ID: <randall.714956052@seashore>
- Date: 27 Aug 92 22:54:12 GMT
- References: <1992Aug26.231313.28687@risky.ecs.umass.edu> <1992Aug27.114556.23229@dcatlas.dot.gov>
- Sender: news@informix.com (Usenet News)
- Organization: Informix Software, Inc.
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- sethg@dcatlas.dot.gov (Seth Grimes) writes:
- >I say this is a typical salesperson BS. Oracle is out in the lead by far,
- >especially because Informix has ignored or abandoned important market
- >sectors like VAX/VMS. Informix is a Unix DBMS; Oracle is on loads of
- >platforms. Oracle is integrating their DBMS with lots of applications;
- >does Informix sell anything but the DBMS.
-
- Informix made a deliberate decision not to support VAX/VMS. This
- policy allowed us to provide better database engines and development
- tools for UNIX. To do otherwise, or to start developing applications
- software, would have spread our resources too thin. It was not
- a bad decision; we have had record revenues for several quarters
- in a row. Our stock price, which was lower than Oracle's in early
- 1991, is now 2-1/2 times higher, and our earnings-per-share
- is much higher than our competition. It is now widely recognized that
- the UNIX market is growing, and the VAX/VMS market is declining.
- We also run on "loads of platforms", but all of them are UNIX
- or DOS.
-
- Because Oracle runs on every platform under the sun, it takes them
- forever to roll out a new product. At my last company, Oracle salespeople
- showed us a 35mm slide show about Oracle Version 7. This was in
- July of 1990. The product was not actually released until this
- month ... two years later! Talk about "vaporware!"
-
- I can tell you also that after working with Informix on a UNIX
- platform, trying to develop applications with Oracle under VMS
- was an eye-opening experience. Not only is VMS an inferior
- operating system for programmers (what? No 'grep'? No pipes?),
- Oracle was a very complex, buggy, and frustrating product to
- work with. Their biggest weakness is the lack of a useful
- 4GL programming language. We were left with only Oracle Cobol.
- I made the wise move: I quit and started working for Informix.
-
- >And lastly, Oracle has a great
- >marketing department, although their hype caught up with them last summer
- >when some of their accounting practices like premature recording of sales
- >and penchant for vaporware became exposed. How else could such a mediocre
- >product have captured so much of the market?
-
- That is quite correct: Oracle had the right marketing hype at the
- right time. Their "vaporware" and accounting practices got
- exposed before last summer. "Information Week" had a scathing cover
- article in April of 1990, and several newspapers covered the
- controversy in the summer of 1990.
-
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- Randall Rhea Informix Software, Inc.
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