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- From: pease@amarna.gsfc.nasa.gov (Pease)
- Subject: Re: Info on large, slow storage wanted (jukeboxes, etc.)
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- References: <1992Aug29.210553.8744@rhein-main.de>
- Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 16:27:00 GMT
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- In article <1992Aug29.210553.8744@rhein-main.de>, vhs@rhein-main.de writes...
- >I need to design a retrieval system for ~15TB of data, of which ~5TB are
- >retrieved with a high frequency (25 requests/second) and an access time
- >of avg. 30 seconds (max. 120 seconds). Retrieval lacks any locality, so the
- >5TB are real random-access. The rest of the data is still accessed at a
- >rate of 5 requests/second. Here, too, access is completely random.
- >So far I've come up with the following ideas:
- >
- >1) Use large (10GB) WORM jukeboxes with many pickers (~40),
- > many drives (~150) and a *real* intelligent scheduler. No cache.
- >
- >2) Use 1) for the less-often-retrieved data, and several 625MB-OD
- > jukeboxes with even more drives and a less intelligent scheduler.
- >
- >I figure that doing some 25 media changes a second would be a real
- >performance killer. Due to the response time restrictions (30 seconds)
- >there is hardly a chance to build a decent queue for pending requests
- >and schedule them appropriately.
- >So what we really need is 5TB of something like a huge, if slow, hard disk.
- >Is there any such kind of device? Any other ideas? Any help?
- >
- >Any kind of information is greatly appreciated (hints, pointers, ideas, etc.)
- >
- >--
- >Volker Herminghaus-Shirai (vhs@rhein-main.de)
-
- One system that I have discovered that may meet your needs is a system
- that automates a library of 5.25" optical disks. Their largest holds
- 2000 disks. The factor that makes it applicable is that it can have
- up to 100 drives per unit. However, this unit can only have two
- changers and it takes 5 seconds too exchange a disk.
-
- With 1GB magneto-optical rewritable disks (2 GB disks expected by
- spring 93) you could get 2TB/system so you would need 5 systems.
- Getting a computer system to handle 500 drives may be tough.
-
- The company is Document Imaging Systems Corp.
- 541 Weddell Dr.,
- Sunnyvale, CA., 94089
- tel. (408)734-5287
-
- You have really tough requirements, but maybe if you have enough money
- it could be done.
-
- Phil Pease
- My witty disclaimer - everything I perceive, through either sensory or
- extrasensory means, has been filtered to such an extent that you had better not
- attempt to attribute anything I say to anyone else.
-