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- From: osborn@socs.uts.edu.au (Tom Osborn)
- Subject: Re: AI Winter
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- Organization: Computing Sciences, Uni of Technology, Sydney.
- References: <1992Aug28.125825.7628@csc.ti.com> <1992Aug28.191729.105759@ua1ix.ua.edu> <1992Aug28.200143.8844@erg.sri.com>
- Date: 4 Sep 92 04:39:22 GMT
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- marie@paris.erg.sri.com (Marie desJardins) writes:
-
- >In article <1992Aug28.191729.105759@ua1ix.ua.edu>, rsun@athos.cs.ua.edu
- >(Ron Sun) writes:
- >|>In article <1992Aug28.125825.7628@csc.ti.com> thrift@ra.csc.ti.com
- >(Phil Thrift) writes:
- >|>>knowledge-based approaches are declining, learning-based approaches
- >|>>are on the upswing (see the latest addition of Winston's AI text).
- >|>
- >|>Although interesting, this thing is no longer AI: it has nothing to do
- >|>with the original grand goal of understanding intelligence and cognition.
-
- >Since when is machine learning not AI? I find it hard to believe that's
- >what you're saying; perhaps you could clarify. (Possibly your point is that
- >learning *alone* isn't "complete AI"? But then neither is knowledge
- >representation and inference.)
-
- He's saying ML != AI. I think that's pretty plain. I take ML as the theory
- and methods of compressing data into semantically exploitable categorical
- expressions <woa, adjectival overload!>, ie, to explain data simpler than
- by listing it. I would (if pressed) take AI to be satisficing within a model
- - the model usually coming from existent conventional human explanations.
-
- I don't see ML as a subset of AI (complete AI - not a term I would use).
- (And I don't see it vice versa either). Even the overlap seems, to me,
- to be far less than 50% of either field. [The aims may overlap moreso].
-
- The original post (Thrift?) lists various methods of ML which I wouldn't
- accept as within AI. Even NNs have been given the black spot by many AI
- Labs and principals. Just because they have become more useful and productive
- doesn't justify a "prodigal returns" conversion? [I raise a political spectre].
-
-
- Tom Osborn, " It is sorrow, not malice
- School of Computing Sciences, which kills worlds ".
- University of Technology, Sydney,
- PO Box 123 Broadway 2007, AUSTRALIA. Kate Braverman, 1985.
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