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- From: lerman@sunny.teknowledge.com (Lee Erman)
- Newsgroups: comp.ai
- Subject: Re: AI Winter Refugees
- Message-ID: <LERMAN.92Aug31101259@sunny.teknowledge.com>
- Date: 31 Aug 92 17:12:59 GMT
- References: <x+an!9a.vere@netcom.com> <1992Aug25.162954.556@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU>
- Sender: lerman@Teknowledge.COM
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- Organization: Cimflex Teknowledge Corp., KSD
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- In-reply-to: ginsberg@t.Stanford.EDU's message of 25 Aug 92 16:29:54 GMT
- Cc: ginsberg@t.Stanford.EDU
- Bcc: lerman@teknowledge.com
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- In article <1992Aug25.162954.556@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU> ginsberg@t.Stanford.EDU (Matthew L. Ginsberg) writes:
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- From: ginsberg@t.Stanford.EDU (Matthew L. Ginsberg)
- Newsgroups: comp.ai
- Date: 25 Aug 92 16:29:54 GMT
- References: <x+an!9a.vere@netcom.com>
- Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University
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- [...]
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- In the industrial sector, things are more complex because industrial
- jobs are somewhat more stable than academic ones. Often individuals
- cannot be dismissed; entire corporations must disappear instead.
- Witness the demise of Teknowledge.
-
- [...]
-
- Matt Ginsberg
-
- Without engaging too deeply in this interesting thread, I would like to
- correct a factual mistatement in that article:
- "Witness the demise of Teknowledge."
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- Teknowledge merged with American Cimflex Corp a few years back. The
- organization that was Teknowledge became the Knowledge Systems Division of the
- new Cimflex Teknowledge Corp. There are about of 35 of us here, many after 8
- years or more (including me, Rick Hayes-Roth, Allan Terry, Bob London, Terry
- Barnes, and Jim Davidson). We are selling AI products (M.4 (nee M.1),
- ProductTrack, Enterprise/DX), doing commercial AI work (GM, Motorola, etc),
- and working on govt (DARPA and other) AI and architecture contracts (DSSA,
- DICE, MMACE, Focus: HOPE, etc). We've certainly not had the success of
- Microsoft, but I wouldn't call it demise either.
-
- I guess I can't resist an additional opinion: Although many of the articles
- in this thread put forth interesting hypotheses, almost all include no data to
- back them up. Here's a bit of data: Of the "original 4" AI companies:
- Teknowledge, Intellicorp, Inference, and Carnegie Group, ALL of them are still
- around.
-
- --Lee
-
- Lee D. Erman
- Cimflex Teknowledge Corp.
- Knowledge Systems Division
- 1810 Embarcadero Road phone: 415/424-0500 ext.422
- P.O. Box 10119 fax: 415/493-2645
- Palo Alto, CA 94303 email: lerman@teknowledge.com
-