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- Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 03:48:00 GMT
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- From: Henry James Bicycles Inc <0005096370@MCIMAIL.COM>
- Subject: Promoting PCT
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- [From Hank Folson (920902)]
-
- (Dag Forssell 920901)
- >>I won't embarrass Dag by listing all the different things he has
- >>tried to get me interested in over the years, but there were many.
-
- >Would it embarrass me?
-
- Must have. YouUre responding, arenUt you? -Just joking, folks. DagUs
- intention is to make a good point:
-
- >Was I trying to interest you (focus on you), or
- >just bubbling along about what interested me at the time
- >(focus on me)? I got no error signal from your refusal to take my
- >expert advice, did I?
-
- If you had no error signal, my response was not the controlled
- variable. If so, IUm ticked off that you wasted my time going on about
- your selfish interests all those years....
-
- As I typed this little witticism, it became embarrassingly clear to me
- that that this last sentence is a classic S-R view of life that has no
- place on the net, except perhaps as a bad example. Had I known about
- PCT then, I would have watched for your reaction to my courteous but
- non-committal response to your latest interest. Had I seen no hurt in
- your eyes (The Test), I would have understood that you were indeed just
- bubbling along about yourself. If my time was wasted, it was my doing
- not yours as I recall no violence in our past.
-
- OR: My response was the controlled variable, but your expectation was
- framed in the negative (that I would NOT respond). This a nice defense
- system people have that creates a win-win situation. My negative
- response would create no error signal. A positive response creates an
- error signal, but a higher level is satisfied by my positive response
- which overrides the lower level error signal. Thanx to Ed Ford for
- introducing me to this in _Freedom From Stress_.
-
- In any event, whatever your intentions, I, an independent control
- system, responded as I wanted to respond, which reinforces the
- difficulty in promoting PCT, which is where this all started.
-
- In control, Hank
-
- Hank Folson, Henry James Bicycles, Inc.
- 704 Elvira Avenue, Redondo Beach, CA 90277
- 310-540-1552 (Day & Evening) MCI MAIL: 509-6370 Internet: 5096370@MCIMAIL.COM
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