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- From: avery@netcom.com (Avery Ray Colter)
- Subject: Re: CHOOSING to be attracted to someone
- Message-ID: <66hn4a=.avery@netcom.com>
- Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 23:19:41 GMT
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- References: <1992Aug25.000853.12432@seas.gwu.edu> <1992Aug26.170748.25209@Princeton.EDU> <1992Aug28.085219.15410@rcvie.co.at> <1992Aug30.163441.308@seas.gwu.edu>
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- sheryl@seas.gwu.edu (Sheryl Coppenger) writes:
-
- >Oh, come on. Attitudes don't happen in a vaccuum. The media play
- >a big part, and laws play a big part. Both can condone an attitude and
- >make people more willing to express it. Think about how much attitudes
- >have changed about SO many things just since the 50s. WE are shaping
- >today's attitudes and the attitudes of the future. The question is,
- >how many of us will recognize and exercise our power (limited thought it
- >may be) and how many will just roll over and die?
-
- People made the writings in the media.
- People made laws.
- People made newsgroups like alt.support.big-folks. :)
-
- Sure, attitudes don't happen in a vacuum, but to try to make a deterministic
- interpretation of it all seems to me like trying to write the equation of
- motion for more than two bodies affecting each other by the inverse-square law.
-
- And I'm still wondering who condoned my attraction for large women, at least
- at the time that I was resolving to myself, "alone and in a vacuum" (or so it
- felt), to own my feelings and defend them as best I could.
-
- I CAN make myself attracted to a thin woman physically if I REALLY have to.
- But there's just something a little cold about MAKING oneself be attracted
- to someone.
-
- Our own power includes the power of boundaries. Not only defining them,
- but raising the defenses without which the definitions are easily violated.
- There is as much danger in being too open as in being too closed.
- Applying that fact to this case might strike some as ridiculous, but
- I have to do things which don't please everyone. And frankly, it seems
- at times like "peer pressure" is at work yet again with the idea that
- since everyone's body is beautiful to SOMEONE, that everyone's body can
- be attractive to EVERYONE who follows some mind-cracking procedure.
-
- >I'm not so cynical as Avery. I don't think we have to replace one fascism
- >with another.
-
- Whoa, I'd better go back and see if I fell asleep while writing.
- I thought I had written that others' attractions don't upset me,
- so long as they don't try to enforce them on me. If I gave the
- impression of wanting to make society glorify fatness and denigrate
- thinness, that is definitely not what I was thinking. For one thing,
- it would be rather hypocritical and self-injurious on my part for
- nothing else than the fact that I'm "of the thin race". Someone else
- is perfectly free to tell me of their ways, to be proud of them, to
- tell me how it enriches their lives, to explain in this case what
- "physically attractive" means to them or if it means almost nothing to
- them. But the final word on whether I choose to change my ways is mine.
- Otherwise the opportunity for fascism does indeed raise its ugly head.
- (Uhhh, assuming we have a consensus that fascism is ugly? ;) )
- Unfortunately, I'm beginning to wonder who is worse, those who used to
- try to convert me to being attracted to thin women, or those who are now
- trying to convert me to being attracted to every woman in existence. The
- latter strikes me at times as the former with one step removed, namely
- the exclusion of the attractions I presently harbor.
-
- Please tell me what replacement of fascismi you feel I'm proposing.
- I am unaware of proposing one fascism with another.
- --
- Avery Ray Colter ("Elfcat") - avery@netcom.netcom.com (IP 192.100.81.100)
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- "Heaviness is the root of lightness; calmness is the controller of haste"
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