home *** CD-ROM | disk | FTP | other *** search
- Path: sparky!uunet!cis.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!csn!scicom!paranet!p0.f18.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Bill.Carlson
- From: Bill.Carlson@p0.f18.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Bill Carlson)
- Newsgroups: alt.messianic
- Subject: Clean And Unclean Un / Maccoby Book
- Message-ID: <139892.2AA5824C@paranet.FIDONET.ORG>
- Date: 2 Sep 92 20:45:01 GMT
- Sender: ufgate@paranet.FIDONET.ORG (newsout1.26)
- Organization: FidoNet node 1:104/18.0 - Midrash, Denver CO
- Lines: 37
-
-
- -=> Quoting Robert A. Levene <=-
- RAL> From: levene@aplpy.jhuapl.edu (Robert A. Levene)
- RAL> Date: 1 Sep 92 04:28:20 GMT
- RAL> Organization: Johns Hopkins University
- RAL> Message-ID: <9209010427.AA01196@aplpy.jhuapl.edu>
- RAL> Newsgroups: alt.messianic
- RAL>
- RAL> In article <LJMORLY.92Aug31200753@polaris.utu.fi>
- RAL> ljmorly@polaris.utu.fi writes:
- > The bloodless sin offerings were given together with the blood, thus
- > it was the blood in any case that made the atonement. Please give me
- > a quote from Tanach that says that there is atonement without a
- > sacrifice.
- RAL>
- RAL> Atonement via bloodless sacrifice or no sacrifice at all?
- RAL>
- RAL> Numbers 31:50 describes a bloodless offering.
- RAL> I Kings 8:33-4 describes forgiveness of sin without any sacrifice.
- > and I have given it to you to make atonement for yourselves on the
- > altar; IT IS THE BLOOD THAT MAKES ATONEMENT FOR ONE'S LIFE.
- RAL>
- RAL> But it doesn't say it is *only* the blood.
- LUCHOTH HABBERITH (242a): He (the Messiah) will give
- Himself and His life over unto death, and His blood will atone
- for His people. SEBANIM (6a): Surely atonement can only be made
- with the blood, as it says, 'For it is the blood that maketh
- atonement by reason of the life' -[Leviticus 17:11]. [See also
- Yoma (5a); and Hebrews 9:22]. [Ex.24:8; Jer.31:31; Matt.20:28]
- Maybe that's why them Chassidic Jews wave those chickens over their
- heads and kill them before Yom Kippur, you figure? :-)
-
- ... 012 Am Israel Chai! 210
- --
- Bill Carlson - via ParaNet node 1:104/422
- UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name
- INTERNET: Bill.Carlson@p0.f18.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG
-