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- Subject: Re: "Gender Flags" -- for lack of a better term.
- Message-ID: <1992Sep01.032416.25206@ecst.csuchico.edu>
- From: sundog@ecst.csuchico.edu (Mark Stone)
- Date: Tue, 01 Sep 1992 03:24:16 GMT
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- In article <Bto3MM.69E@cs.dal.ca> franklin@ug.cs.dal.ca (Steve Franklin) writes:
- >In <BtnqKz.6tA@news.cso.uiuc.edu> dmd39855@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Daniel M. DuBois) writes:
- >
- >>How many of you guys greet other guys with: "hugz!" ?
- >
- > Yeah, but don't you feel like a bit of a turd typing "hugz" to some
- >female you've never seen before either? Honestly folks, irc is a bit
- >much, but this "gender flag" concept has reallllly brought it out in
- >the open.
- > The way I see it, the same fool who wants the gender flag wants to
- >be able to do a
- >/who *female* so that he can annoy each and every one of the females trying
-
-
- Um, the person who suggested this whole thing was female.
-
- Which brings up some other interesting questions:
-
- Assuming that IRC females are not sex-crazed-net-geeks like the commonly
- conceived IRC male, there must be some OTHER reason a woman suggested this
- idea. For instance, the previously posted net.decent.folks concept? That
- there are plenty of other handy reasons for knowing a person's gender
- besides sex? (Editor's note: Are we all so involved in the sexual aspect
- of IRC that we can't see beyond it enough to note reasons other than?)
-
- Plus, it looked so completely *optional* to me. You can have a gender
- flag if you like, but you don't have to. You can tell someone your gender
- if you like, but you don't have to. You have lie about your gender by
- using the opposite flag, if you like, just as easily as you can tell
- someone that you are the opposite gender, if you like. If a few folks
- wish to avoid the "so, are you male or female" aspect of the situation
- (*when it matters*) then they have *that option* -- those who are so
- against it, that maintain that gender doesn't matter, etc, can live
- their own lives too. (But again, my editor's note: There are many
- reasons besides sex that make gender note-worthy. Perhaps we're
- concentrating too hard on sex being the 'one' or 'main' reason.)
-
- For those who say "poor gals who use the gender flag will be etc"
- remember that it is "poor gals who" CHOOSE "to use the gender
- flag will be etc."
-
-
- I think this would be just fine as an optional situation, and I
- would nearly welcome it-- in RL, trying to find out someone's gender
- through conversation is a ridiculous possibility, perhaps an absurd
- situation (yes, i know there are exceptions), and having it replicated
- on IRC (something of a RL simulation, at *least*) also feels silly.
-
- Those who dislike the gender flag, don't use it. Those who wish to,
- for truth or deception, may as well.
-
-
- --Mark Stone
- sundog@amber.ecst.csuchico.edu
- > please send flames to email, not newsgroup
-
-