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- From: ataylor@nmsu.edu (Nosy)
- Subject: Re: handguns (?)
- In-Reply-To: jcmarx@bnr.ca's message of Tue, 18 Aug 1992 12:02:26 GMT
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- <1992Aug18.120226.18553@brtph560.bnr.ca>
- Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 21:16:42 GMT
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- <In article <1992Aug18.120226.18553@brtph560.bnr.ca> jcmarx@bnr.ca (JC Marx) writes:
-
- <In addition to what DC has already said, handguns are not normally as
- <accessable as a small container of mace.
-
- This is false. Small revolvers and/or pistols can be
- carried safely in a number of ways that make them just
- as easily reached as any chemical tool.
-
- <Mace is legal
-
- No, it isn't. It is prohibited in some Eastern U.S. states,
- may be illegal in some provinces of Canada (I have conflicting
- information) and requires a weapons permit in Massachusetts.
-
- It also is not nearly as effective as many people claim.
-
- <and can be attached to one's car
- <keys, which are quite often already in one's hands anyway. Probably wouldn't
- <do to have a woman, who thinks she is being stalked through the mall, to have
- <her handgun ready, esp if a) no bullet is breached, and b) she is carrying
- < several packages.
-
- "Wouldn't do"? Excuse me, there are at least 2 methods
- of concealed carry which allow a person to put hand on
- firearm in "ready" position (finger off trigger) while
- not exposing the firearm to view.
-
- <Beside, IMO, most woman aren't as vengeful (sp) as men. If
- <some guy(s) tried to rape me, I would definately be trying to kill them. Woman
- <don't normally have this thirst for blood and simply wish to escape the
- <attacker, which frankly, makes much more sense.,
-
- Since you are not a woman, this comment isn't particularly
- useful. Suffice to say, women constitute the fastest growing
- category of firearms owners in the U.S.
-
- <In addition to the above, one must be trained to use a handgun effectively -
- <no training required for mace.
-
- This is incorrect as well. Basic training in proper handgun
- use can be done in as little as 5 or 6 days. Women generally
- learn *faster* than men do, because they don't have their
- ego to get out of the way.
-
- Mace and other chemical sprays *do* require training to use
- properly. AWARE in Massachusetts regularly offers training
- in the proper use of these tools.
-
- <Mace goes in the face (an easy target in most
- <instances), however, a bullet must be aimed with precision.
-
- Sorry, mace to the face isn't as easy OR as reliable
- as you seem to think.
-
- Women who defend against rape attempts with firearms are
- most likely to succeed, according to FBI reports.
- Note that "defend" in most cases does NOT mean shots
- fired.
-
- <If the woman
- <hesitates, even for a second, her own gun could be turned against
- <her.
-
- A good point in favor of proper training in use and
- retention of firearms.
-
- <She is
- < more likely to make that deadly hesitation while aiming a handgun.
-
- Since you aren't a woman, this is not particularly
- interesting.
-
- <Lastly, a small container of mace is several times cheaper than a handgun.
-
- Not necessarily.
-
-