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- From: jcmarx@bnr.ca (JC Marx)
- Subject: Re: genetics
- Message-ID: <1992Aug18.114639.18196@brtph560.bnr.ca>
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- Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 11:46:39 GMT
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- In article <1992Aug14.172158.9453@uoft02.utoledo.edu>, dcrosgr@uoft02.utoledo.edu writes:
- |> In article <1992Aug14.175514.25454@brtph560.bnr.ca>, kimmyd@bnr.ca (Kimmy Posey P920) writes:
- |> > In article <1992Aug14.122558.8576@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu>, flaps@dgp.toronto.edu (Alan J Rosenthal) writes:
- |> > |> query@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Samuel Green) writes:
- |> > |> >It is pretty much a fact: Your average male is genetically given a higher
- |> > |> >ability to fight than your average woman, while potentials may differ.
- |> > |>
- |> > |> There is no evidence that the difference in women and men's strength in our
- |> > |> society is genetic. It could be entirely cultural.
- |> > |>
- |> > |> *NOTE* I said NO EVIDENCE. Responding with "come on, surely it's genetic" is
- |> > |> not a valid counterargument (though it's the one I usually get).
- |> >
- |> > Pick up a copy of "Muscle & Fitness" magazine. Find a photo of the largest,
- |> > most powerful pro builders of both genders. Compare the two. Now, think about
- |> > how they got that way. They eat the same food, train with the same equipment,
- |> > read the same things, think about the same things, talk about the same things.
- |> > Obviously before they started training they may have lived differently but to
- |> > me comparing Anja Schreiner or even Paula Birchumshaw to Dorian Yates or Lee
- |> > Haney is EVIDENCE ENOUGH. Some of the difference in strength *MAY* be cultural.
- |> > But to suggest that it is entirely cultural just doesn't ring true. IMO the
- |> > difference is *MOSTLY* genetic.
- |> >
- |> > KimmyD
- |> >
- |>
- |> Only if you equate ability to fight as being dependent entirely on muscle and
- |> size.
- |>
- |> You know it is amazing how few of those muscle-atheletes ever win the Hevy
- |> Weight Crown, or any kick-boxing competitions.
- |>
- |> And I would put ANY of them up against Chuck Norris.
- |>
- |> Or Franco from my old Karate school. (Little guy, could break several ribs on
- |> the first puch, and had.)
- |>
- |> Strength is somewhat genetics. What you do with it is entirely a personal
- |> decision.
- |>
- |> DC
- |>
- |>
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- With regard to your little friend (who breaks ribs on first punch): Imagine
- what he could do if he were, say two to three times stronger - or
- put him up against a previous body builder gone kickboxer - Van Damm (sp?).
- Sure, I'd love to see Norris vs. John-Claude...
-
- As far as "those muscle-atheletes" ever winning the Hevy Weight Crown or
- any kick-boxing competitions - I could just as easily say, Hey, I'd like to
- see some of those Karate jocks bench press 500lbs.
-
- But, we digress...
- JC
-