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- From: dcrosgr@uoft02.utoledo.edu
- Newsgroups: talk.rape
- Subject: Re: Critisizing the victim?
- Message-ID: <1992Aug13.001749.9381@uoft02.utoledo.edu>
- Date: 13 Aug 92 00:17:49 EST
- References: <1992Aug5.225634.9216@uoft02.utoledo.edu> <Bsu2vI.CBr@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> <1992Aug11.190223.9340@uoft02.utoledo.edu> <Bsvp63.Eq3@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>
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- In article <Bsvp63.Eq3@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>, seiffe@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Erica Seiffert) writes:
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- > DC,
- >
- > I understand your position, however I am trying to point
- > out that it is practically impossible for a woman in this socieity
- > to avoid a "high risk" situation. ANY situation where in she is
- > alone with a man (generally speaking...) can be a "high risk"
- > situation for that woman. The point is that the "way the world
- > is" a woman can be sexually assulted by her husband, her brother,
- > her clegyman, her doctor, her teacher, her boss..etc.
- > A woman has to learn to appraise every situation and every
- > person. DC do you ever worry that your placing yourself at risk
- > when you talk with a Professor alone? Do you ever wonder if you
- > shouldn't have some one with you when the maintenance man comes
- > by to fix something? Do you ever set up a little emergency "code"
- > system with your friends when you go out on a first date?
- >
- > (etc... deleted)
-
- From what you have said, it looks like a prudent person is constantly
- evaluating her circumtances for indicators that this is not a good situation to
- be in. To use military jargon, when enough red flags go up, you should be
- moving out of there.
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- You will PLEASE NOTE I have never advocated going up to rape victims who
- stayed when they should have gone and telling them, "Boy, were you ever stupid!
- Most people could have seen that attack from miles away."
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- I do however, strongly advocate that in an effort to shock a little reality
- into younger femalesby telling them in no uncertain terms, just like we do with
- AIDS and drugs, that if your brain tells you not to be doing something, it is
- stupid to ignore that warning.
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- Maybe you feel rape victims will be upset becuase they backwards apply a future
- warning to their past actions, and conclude that the message is calling them
- stupid for having been victimized. I can see where that could be a concern.
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- I, however, am more concerned with lowering the number of victims than with
- watching out for the feelings of those who have already been attacked.
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- Jugment calls.
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- If you can find a happy median, that still send out a very clear and strong
- message to immature females, I am sure most of us would appreciate it.
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- DC
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