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- Newsgroups: talk.rape
- From: flaps@dgp.toronto.edu (Alan J Rosenthal)
- Subject: Re: walking someone to their car
- Message-ID: <1992Aug12.122128.2212@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu>
- References: <VwuLoB2w164w@cellar.org> <1992Jul28.171426.28118@ncar.ucar.edu> <1992Aug8.001542.11921@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu> <1992Aug8.095257.9283@uoft02.utoledo.edu>
- Date: 12 Aug 92 16:21:28 GMT
- Lines: 30
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- dcrosgr@uoft02.utoledo.edu writes:
- >Ever heard of "Don't start a flame war."
-
- Imagine that. Mr Flame War himself, the man who turned talk.rape from a mostly
- constructive discussion into a flame fest, telling me how to avoid starting a
- flame war.
-
- >>>Second of all, the man has to walk all the way back from the car alone,
- >>>entailing a similar risk to the risk the woman was unwilling to take.
- ^^^^^^^^^^^^
- >>
- >> If you think that men are raped on the street at night and in underground
- >> parking lots just as much as women are ("a similar risk"), in North America,
- >> you're not living in the same North America that I am.
- >
- >You have entirely missed the point Eric was making--that in situations a man
- >places himself at a higher risk by helping reduce a woman's risk. No one ever
- >said the man ALWAYS faces the EXACT SAME risk.
-
- He didn't say "exact same", but he said "similar". This was incorrect. It is
- not similar.
-
- >All that was said is that in order for a man to reduce a woman's risks, he
- >must increases his own--expecially under certain circumstances.
-
- Sometimes yes. Sometimes not, for example in underground parking lots in the
- city of Toronto in which violence against men is quite rare but violence
- against women is commonplace. But even if there is an increased risk, if it's
- substantially less than the decrease to the woman's risk, it makes sense for
- the man to accompany her.
-