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- From: ric@hpspdla.spd.HP.COM (Ric Peregrino)
- Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 17:56:02 GMT
- Subject: Re: free will
- Message-ID: <14910005@hpspdla.spd.HP.COM>
- Organization: HP Stanford Park - Palo Alto, CA
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- Newsgroups: talk.philosophy.misc
- References: <1992Aug17.181001.18309@cis.umassd.edu>
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- >So what? Knowledge is still irrelevant to the argument that dave
- >was responding to.
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- So what? The point I made was that even if God knows that there is determinism,
- there may be no way He can prove it to you.
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- I think a precise definition of free will is required. I won't try too make
- one, but point out some possible directions.
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- 1. Free will exists if there is no way to make predictions.
- 2. Free will doesn't exist if there is a deterministic physics, and
- free will does exist if there isn't a deterministic physics.
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- 1. may seem silly, but consider the chocolate vs. vanilla question. If one
- can know which you will choose, then you certainly don't have free will.
- If no one but you can know which, then you have this free will.
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- 2. is black or white, and, like you point out above, one's knowledge is
- irrelevant.
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