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- From: jk@panix.com (Jim Kalb)
- Newsgroups: talk.philosophy.misc
- Subject: Re: Re: The philosophical basis for Affirmative Action (was Re: ...at the Y
- Message-ID: <1992Aug16.182217.4345@panix.com>
- Date: 16 Aug 92 18:22:17 GMT
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- daq@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Doug Quarnstrom) writes:
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- >I do not deny thay Russia fell, nor do I deny the reasons it fell, but
- >it does not shed any light at all on why capitalism seems to ALWAYS
- >abandon the free market and march down the road to socialism.
-
- Book VIII of Plato's _Republic_ is relevant to this question. That's
- where Plato gives a theory of political evolution in which a
- half-mythical ideal state declines into a military aristocracy, and
- then into a commercial oligarchy, a democratic consumer society, and
- finally a tyranny.
-
- The transition you mention (free market => socialism) has at least some
- similarity to the last three stages in the sequence Plato describes.
- In part, his view is that a society in which the love of gain rules
- can't be stable because it's profitable for those who want to make
- money to encourage other people simply to follow their own desires,
- whatever they may happen to be, and people brought up in that kind of
- society aren't educated to have any satisfactory reason not to do just
- that. When people make a practice of following whatever their desires
- happen to be, though, they soon find themselves in difficulties because
- the desires multiply while the means of achieving them dissipate.
- Next, leaders arise who tell the people that it is the rich oligarchs
- who stand in the way of the realization of the liberty and equality
- that democrats value (because they eliminate restrictions on an
- individual's ability to pursue his desires). A class war follows, and
- a government is established in which a very small class rules in the
- name of the people but in fact for their own benefit.
-
- Naturally, Plato's account is more complex and interesting than my
- summary, and you might find it worth reading. I believe that Daniel
- Bell wrote a book called _The Cultural Contradictions of Capitalism_
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- Jim Kalb (jk@panix.com)
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