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- From: gary@ke4zv.uucp (Gary Coffman)
- Newsgroups: talk.environment
- Subject: Re: The definition of Wealth
- Message-ID: <1992Aug21.130722.11884@ke4zv.uucp>
- Date: 21 Aug 92 13:07:22 GMT
- References: <1992Aug20.013625.24541@newshost.anu.edu.au>
- Reply-To: gary@ke4zv.UUCP (Gary Coffman)
- Organization: Gannett Technologies Group
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- In article <1992Aug20.013625.24541@newshost.anu.edu.au> Andrew.Robinson@anu.edu.au writes:
- >It took me so long to think of a reply for Gary that the original thread
- >disappeared from our files. Tsk.
- >
- >Correct me if I am wrong, Gary, but the position you stated most recently was
- >that we could effectively equate wealth with utility - that is, the more we are
- >able to do, the more wealthy we are. You went on to describe money as being a
- >sort of unnecessary and possibly insufficient condition for wealth. I think
- >that what _you_ said is an excellent definition, and I hope that I have done it
- >justice here.
-
- Wealth and utility are two ways of looking at the same thing. That's
- true. Wealth only exists in as far as it confers the ability to manipulate
- the environment more to our liking. Money is the counter typically used in
- measuring wealth. Money, as in coinage, is not strictly a necessary
- requirement for wealth, but some sort of counter is required if we are to
- rise above simple barter. Money adequately serves that purpose.
-
- >However, I am concerned about the attempted comparison of wealth generation
- >between economic systems. How can we trade off wealth when it's defined as
- >utility? I shall deliberately choose a trite example - am I more wealthy than
- >you because I saw a kangaroo in the bush two mornings ago as I walked to work?
- >Or am I less wealthy than you because I can't trip over [insert your local
- >cuddly here] under the same circumstances? To be truly comparable, the wealth
- >created by one system must be a subset of the wealth created by another,
- >otherwise there will be overlap but there will also be fringes which either has
- >that the other doesn't, and who is to say whose fringes are better? I suppose
- >this is where my comment about the economic systems defining wealth could come
- >in again. I think that to say that our system is better at generating wealth
- >than another where there is some overlap but also fringes is to apply a
- >subjective value judgement to those fringes.
-
- The scenic value of wildlife spotting is a recreational utility. It's
- cheaper to enjoy the grass in the backyard than it is to view an exotic
- in a distant area. So viewing any particular bit of wildlife is an exercise
- of wealth proportional to the rarity of the event. If your backyard is
- crawling with pesky kangaroos, and mine is crawling with rabbits, neither
- of us is exercising any particular amount of wealth in the viewing process.
- If either of us is required to exercise considerable effort, such as
- purchasing a refuge, in order to view the critters, then use of wealth
- is involved. To put it another way, wealth is involved when we have to
- take a positive action to achieve an end. Usually that action involves
- an exchange with another person such as purchasing an item to facilitate
- our desires.
-
- Looking at wealth another way, oil in the ground is not wealth. Extracting,
- processing, transporting, and marketing oil *creates* wealth by increasing
- the utility of the resource.
-
- Gary
-