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- From: dean@vexcel.com (dean alaska)
- Subject: Re: Population Growth and the Bet that Paul Ehrlich Lost
- Message-ID: <1992Aug21.034026.4921@vexcel.com>
- Organization: VEXCEL Corporation, Boulder, CO
- References: <1992Aug20.164348.27858@vexcel.com> <JMC.92Aug20175215@SAIL.Stanford.EDU>
- Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 03:40:26 GMT
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- In article <JMC.92Aug20175215@SAIL.Stanford.EDU> jmc@cs.Stanford.EDU writes:
- >All of Dean Alaska's article consists of flat assertion and
- >speculation with no quantitative information. He cites certain
- >causes that perhaps qualitatively tend to have certain effects
- >ignoring anything that may have the opposite effect.
- >
-
- This is basically true. The point of the article is that commodity prices are
- not accurate measure of quality of life. The article was an essay, not
- scientific research. I invite others to suggest factors having opposite
- effects.
- >Let's take just one item, perhaps the most important.
- >Alaska says:
-
- [Do you actually think my last name is Alaska?]
- >
- > Commodities will be stably priced because they are produced
- > by cheaper and cheaper labor and because fewer and fewer
- > people will be in the market to buy them. More poeple will
- > go without.
- >
- >Is he asserting that in the ten years covered by the bet, world
- >per capita consumption declined for important commodities?
- >Which commodities?
- >--
-
- This does appear to be the assertion of the author, at least in regards
- to regions with high population growth and the other factors she mentioned.
- She didn't say which commodities. Do you believe that it is reasonable to
- assert that lower labor costs from increased population could hold
- commodity prices level in the face of increasing scarcity or increasing
- costs of extraction?
- >John McCarthy, Computer Science Department, Stanford, CA 94305
- >*
- >He who refuses to do arithmetic is doomed to talk nonsense.
- >
-
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- --
-
- dingo in boulder (dean@vexcel.com)
-