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- From: pjm@anegada.sps.mot.com (Patrick J. McGuinness)
- Subject: Re: Other Flip-Floppers on abortion
- Message-ID: <1992Aug20.224746.5259@oakhill.sps.mot.com>
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- Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 22:47:46 GMT
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- In article <1992Aug18.222436.21732@sequent.com> bills@sequent.com (Bill Sears) writes:
- >In article <1992Aug18.140511.17562@ncsu.edu>, dsholtsi@csl36h.csl.ncsu.edu (Doug Holtsinger) writes:
- >>
- >> I think you might be able to add Bill Clinton to your list of
- >> Democrats who have changed their positions on abortion. Here's
- >> what my local paper had to say about Clinton's changing stance
- >> on abortion:
- >>
- >> "Clinton's aides, meanwhile, also have used the word evolution
- >> to describe their candidate's shift in views on abortion. As
- >> governor of Arkansas, Clinton declared that ``I am opposed to
- >> abortion.'' In 1989, he signed state legislation requiring
- >> parental notification. As a candidate for president, Clinton
- >> has moved to a more clear-cut abortion-rights position. He
- >> said he would not veto Medicaid funding of abortions for poor
- >> women."
- >>
- >> The Raleigh News and Observer, Monday, August 17, 1992
- >>
- >> It appears that the radical pro-abortionists in the Democratic party
- >> have forced Mr. Clinton to embrace a minority-held position.
- >
- >How many times must people be told?
- >
- > PRO-CHOICE IS _NOT_ THE SAME AS PRO-ABORTION
-
- This is true. But since the Democratic platform calls for
- public funding of abortions in Medicare, isn't it fair to call
- that a pro-abortion stance, since they are using tax dollars
- to support that act?
-
- >Why is it that if someone says that they are "opposed to abortion" that
- >they are labelled ANTI-CHOICE.
-
- Some extremists like to wage arguments through labels.
- We might as well let the activists have their way and call them
- what they want (respectively): pro-life, pro-choice.
- But it is *really* pro-abortion-restrictions vs. pro-abortion-rights.
-
- "Pro-choice" and "Anti-choice" are antiseptic and meaningless terms.
- Is Bill Clinton "anti-choice" because he doesn't support the
- school choice plan that Bush proposed, or the housing voucher plans
- pushed by Kemp? Is his anti-second amendment stance "anti-choice"?
-
- Same with "pro-life" I guess. Can Bush really be pro-life if he supports
- the death penalty for Federal crimes?
-
- >I also support "parental notification".
- >This is not the same as "parental
- >consent".
- .....
- >I support your right to be pro-life, as long as you support my right
- >to be pro-choice.
-
- Hmmm. Some extremists on the "pro-choice" side would claim your
- stance is too restrictive.
- ---
- Pat
-