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- From: cj@eno.wpd.sgi.com (C.J. Silverio)
- Subject: Re: KILLfile created to prevent flamewar
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- References: <1992Aug16.155304.2078@midway.uchicago.edu> <omq5tlo@fido.asd.sgi.com> <1992Aug19.191054.24902@crd.ge.com>
- Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 19:37:34 GMT
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- In article <1992Aug19.191054.24902@crd.ge.com>, cook@sunloan.crd.ge.com writes:
- |cj@eno.wpd.sgi.com (C J Silverio) writes:
- ||>Wise move, and one that will greatly help your peace of mind.
- ||>That debate would be just as stupid in reruns as it was the
- ||>first time.
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- |Many of us did not find the debate, nor the topic thereof, to be
- |"stupid". I think it would be highly unrealistic to deny that
- |there are those in the abortion rights movement who feel great
- |resentment over people who wish to restrict abortion rights, as
- |well as those who feel great resentment over people who wish to
- |have unrestricted abortion rights.
- [...]
-
- I found the debate in its early stages interesting, though not
- particularly constructive. It reminded me that the pro-choice
- movement is not monolithic, by any means. It also reminded me
- that there are people here whom I respect but disagree with, and
- people whom I cannot respect but find myself agreeing with.
-
- The debate also reminded me that this is essentially a political
- issue, a political fight. Some people on my side don't seem to
- want to play politics. I dislike politics, but I'm willing to
- play the game to preserve my life. I'm willing to compromise,
- as a purely political move, on less important issues in order to
- preserve the rights I consider most important. Some people on
- my side, I learned, are not.
-
- The lessons were political & personal, for me. You might have
- learned something about abortion rights specifically, but I
- didn't.
-
- |In any event, I disagree with those who said the discussion was
- |pointless or damaging, I even disagree to a certain extent with
- |those who called it a flamewar. Certainly people got pissed
- |about it, but the central point of the discussion was not
- |simply to attack.
-
- I certainly feel that it became that, for certain people. Not
- for all of us, though. Like Beth is doing now, I bowed out when
- the one-note samba crowd started playing, and constructive
- dialog seemed impossible.
-
- I haven't got the time or the stomach for personality-based
- flame-wars with people I mostly agree with. I haven't got time
- for Pro-Choice Purity Putsches, which is what I perceived this
- argument turning into. I've got misogynist maniacs to worry
- about-- people who'd cheerfully ban abortions for victims of
- rape and for women whose lives are endangered. My energy goes
- to thwarting THOSE menaces to my life & health.
-
- ---
- cj@eno.wpd.sgi.com C J Silverio/Brahms Gang/Berkeley CA 94720
- "Emma felt [...] that to be the favourite and intimate of a man who had
- so many intimates and confidantes, was not the very first distinction
- in the scale of vanity." --Jane Austen
-